(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[15/300 Canadian]
GN[Shusaku Cup 2012 round 2 board 1]PW[In-Seong Hwang]PB[Vladimir Danek]WR[8d]BR[5d]DT[2012-03-31]PC[Targu Mures, Romania]US[HW9x9]C[NiceGuy [-\]: yo
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: connection broke
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcasts of these games on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1  and 2
RobertT [-\]: feels weird listening in on their conversation lol
NiceGuy [-\]: hahaha
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ^^
RobertT [-\]: if you put both streams next to each other you get a panoramic view of the room :D
RobertT [-\]: I learned when i was 17... I'm old in Go also >.<
RobertT [-\]: 18? too old! lol
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;B[pp]
;W[dd]
;B[cp]
;W[pd]
;B[cf]
;W[ch]
;B[cc]
;W[cd]
;B[dc]
;W[ed]
;B[bd]
;W[be]C[trojanXL: shuuuusakuuu :D
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;B[bc]
;W[ce]
;B[fc]
;W[eq]C[trojanXL: c7 looks simple
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;B[cm]
;W[dn]
;B[cn]
;W[cq]
;B[bq]
;W[dp]
;B[co]
;W[cr]C[albak [9d\]: hwang inseong....
rawmeat [2d\]: you know him albak?
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;B[cj]
;W[nq]C[trojanXL: is c10 too slow?
RobertT [-\]: no
albak [9d\]: i do know him
DubbThee [-\]: its pretty good.
RobertT [-\]: d14 is now big for both
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;B[jp]C[DubbThee [-\]: not big enough atm
albak [9d\]: he's not bad ^^
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;W[qn]C[RobertT [-\]: also c10 is kinda reverse sente since w c9 threatens blacks group
Samojlovic [3k\]: i foresee huge fights raging all over the board 
DubbThee [-\]: doubt it.
Samojlovic [3k\]: why do u doubt it?
DubbThee [-\]: w will probably outplay balck.
nghi2403: ai vay
Samojlovic [3k\]: o
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcasts of these games on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1  and 2
DubbThee [-\]: unless he makes huge mistakes or many mistakes
nghi2403: hgdfa;ihrseojugsrdpiteo;strseo
Samojlovic [3k\]: white is that good?
albak [9d\]: white doesn't have to outplay black
albak [9d\]: white could beat black with his eyes closed
nghi2403: ke no
Jakry [21k?\]: hâhhahaha
trojanXL: w will probably grind b down in yose and win safe
NiceGuy [-\]: fast
DubbThee [-\]: ?where eurog o
mate105 [3d\]: no sound?
RobertT [-\]: internet connection died
RobertT [-\]: this is the 2nd time....
poep [3k\]: in seong got promoted to 8d?
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;B[pn]
;W[pm]
;B[on]C[RobertT [-\]: hes been 8d
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;W[qq]
;B[qo]
;W[pq]
;B[qm]C[SteveK [2k\]: is w position preferable already?
poep [3k\]: in the last match he was 7d
Shaomi [4d\]: the board looks very even ?
sensualsow: that's a yes
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: is the TV stream still ok?
RobertT [-\]: yes
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;W[qf]C[Sur [4k?\]: stream is great
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: k thx
Shaomi [4d\]: m3 
Shaomi [4d\]: take lower side
RobertT [-\]: I like how 8d = 4p in european ratings
DubbThee [-\]: in aga isnt it like 9d = 3p?
igolose [4k?\]: white is 4p?
mate105 [3d\]: w is no pro
Sur [4k?\]: Vlada took a nap :-P
albak [9d\]: w is very far from pro
DubbThee [-\]: l0l what?
lalalol: didnt think there was aga 9d?
RobertT [-\]: no he is amateur but in euro ratings 8d has the equivalent rating points of a 4p
sn9 [1k\]: w looks korean?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: o17
RobertT [-\]: w is korean
DubbThee [-\]: l0l
Samojlovic [3k\]: he must be good at starcraft
DubbThee [-\]: s6 for w? just wondering about that
RobertT [-\]: actually he is bronze league
DubbThee [-\]: never liked this joseki
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;B[gq]
;W[br]
;B[lq]
;W[mq]C[Abydos1 [3k\]: Interesting game
DubbThee [-\]: s6 works for w yeah?
mate105 [3d\]: I prefer higher angle camera :)
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;B[lr]C[mate105 [3d\]: should make a hanger for the broadcast camera :P
RobertT [-\]: isnt black d14 a sente sequence?
albak [9d\]: what is b doing?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: the camara from above is here on KGS
DubbThee [-\]: yes
mate105 [3d\]: ah u r right :P
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;W[oc]C[albak [9d\]: that move just cost b a fortune
Samojlovic [3k\]: uh oh
RobertT [-\]: ya m2 seemed slow
Abydos1 [3k\]: yeah
Shaomi [4d\]: should b tenuki instead ?
lalalol: wow. that is gorgeous video
sensualsow: it gives b s4 in sente?
kentia [1k\]: p2 is nothing?
albak [9d\]: what video?
RobertT [-\]: blacks group was fine and whites group is strong so it was just endgame or middle game points
RobertT [-\]: in fuseki
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcasts of these games on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1  and 2
Abydos1 [3k\]: it seems solid but a little slow
mate105 [3d\]: i would love to see cornel match
SteveK [2k\]: where now? does he need some plan that will later help reduce whites influence around top right 
Abydos1 [3k\]: should get good endgame profit from it if he makes it that far
sensualsow: w obviously agrees 
mate105 [3d\]: d14?
Shaomi [4d\]: whats the poit of d14 ?
mate105 [3d\]: now many kids?
Shukai [3d\]: how does kids have anything to do with anything?
mate105 [3d\]: isnt d14 a follow up for c10?
chimbba [3d?\]: maybe f16
Samojlovic [3k\]: respectable albak, what's the status of lower right white's life?
Abydos1 [3k\]: I never know how & when to use C14
RobertT [-\]: with c10, d14 is very strong
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;B[df]C[RobertT [-\]: d14 b14 d12 surrounds in sente
Shaomi [4d\]: wow i have never seen that sequence lol
HeGeX [5k\]: mate just won the price
Abydos1 [3k\]: Doesn't seem that great on this board?
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;W[bf]C[mate105 [3d\]: saw it in Goujuan's lecture :P
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;B[ff]C[Shaomi [4d\]: cheat :p
HeGeX [5k\]: :D
RobertT [-\]: no using what you learned from pros, thats just cheating....
Abydos1 [3k\]: So, just make stuff up then?
RobertT [-\]: yep
Abydos1 [3k\]: You mean I have to think?
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;W[fd]
;B[gc]C[Mysto [?\]: well if u use wat u "learned" from pro's... doesnt that just make it something you yourself know?
Mysto [?\]: i dont get how thats cheating ;)
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;W[gd]C[Mysto [?\]: now if he typed up down left right right square triangle and W blew up
Isobeutel [2k\]: cute kiddies
Mysto [?\]: thatd be cheating.
Rukis [11k\]: I didnt know go had a controller o.o
mate105 [3d\]: each has 4 pieces already :P
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;B[hd]C[Mysto [?\]: ud be amazed what u didnt know about go ;)
Abydos1 [3k\]: they hide usb slots in the bottom of the boards
euphoric [7k?\]: D:
Rukis [11k\]: lol
euphoric [7k?\]: He just blocked the pro's way!!!!!
light3 [3k\]: usb slots?
Mysto [?\]: only on kaya boards
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: these are modern boards and have wifi connection
Mysto [?\]: bamboo and other ones still use n64 remotes
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;W[he]
;B[id]
;W[eg]C[Backflash [7k\]: hey n64 remotes are the best!
RobertT [-\]: there are self broadcasting boards
Mysto [?\]: lol
Rukis [11k\]: lol
Mysto [?\]: poor eurogo :'(
Mysto [?\]: being put out of work by a board
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol
Mysto [?\]: curse you technology!!
mate105 [3d\]: b should have d12
light3 [3k\]: its witchcraft
RobertT [-\]: they have light sensing diodes on the intersections and connect to computers through usb and broadcast the games
euphoric [7k?\]: W's attack on B is fierce o.O
Rukis [11k\]: Can be live!? find out next time on The new Wifi Go board show
chimbba [3d?\]: just give up those 3 stones..
Backflash [7k\]: may i say white doesn't look very well?
Mysto [?\]: you know what robert... somehow that seem likely lol
euphoric [7k?\]: it's an added bonus that W only uses ONE group to attack
uyuiuy: N17
RobertT [-\]: thats because its true mysto lol
Suola [3k\]: me kibitz senses tell me g13 
Mysto [?\]: ;)
light3 [3k\]: is bottom right group alive
Suola [3k\]: i can feel it
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;B[ef]C[Backflash [7k\]: yes
Abydos1 [3k\]: O.O
euphoric [7k?\]: W can kosumi here
albak [9d\]: ot
Mysto [?\]: well... just because he played that doesnt mean you were wrong... all kibitz is 9d quality ;)
Abydos1 [3k\]: That's really aggressive
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;W[ci]C[albak [9d\]: b will rown himself here
euphoric [7k?\]: then again... I'm not a 9p :P
Suola [3k\]: oh well, the guys was not asian, so clearly he was mistaken
light3 [3k\]: rown?
pensivedog [3k\]: can't kosumi, can only popumi... duh
Mysto [?\]: lol
Mysto [?\]: this is not starcraft suola
Suola [3k\]: guy*
Suola [3k\]: wot
Mysto [?\]: ;)
RobertT [-\]: b is getting destoryed
Suola [3k\]: how do you know i've been to TL all day...
Suola [3k\]: ..like every day :(
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcasts of these games on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1  and 2
euphoric [7k?\]: to resign at move 54... terrible :(
mate105 [3d\]: yeah looks like w takes the momentum now
Abydos1 [3k\]: /r/starcraft :P
light3 [3k\]: live broadcast of go sounds exciting =p
Abydos1 [3k\]: now? looks like W's had the momentum the whole time
Abydos1 [3k\]: Tenuki from c10 & m2
mate105 [3d\]: ?
Mysto [?\]: i get mad when i see asian playing starcraft... here i am thinking im doing well, then i see an asian next to me smashing his face against every key at the same time
euphoric [7k?\]: whats up with all the people holding fans?
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;B[hf]C[Mysto [?\]: building 17 hatcheries with 5 minerals
Mysto [?\]: they cheat i tell u.
Suola [3k\]: well, does not help you at starcraft being just asian
Syptryn [4d\]: g14 
Suola [3k\]: you need to be korean or you are nothing
Mysto [?\]: lol
mate105 [3d\]: agreed
Capella [-\]: please keep it friendly, mysto
light3 [3k\]: what i need to register to watch live broadcast?
RobertT [-\]: usualy high apm isnt achieved by repeatedly smashing your face on the keyboard
Shaomi [4d\]: this attack completly failed ?
Mysto [?\]: was intended as a freindly joke capella :)
light3 [3k\]: high apm can be useful in go
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;W[bj]C[Mysto [?\]: lol
Samojlovic [3k\]: it's not all about apm
Samojlovic [3k\]: Lee Young Ho actually doesn't have such high apm
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;B[ck]C[Suola [3k\]: tell that to the poor marines fighting lurkers
Mysto [?\]: face smashing does well for your apm robert ;)
Mysto [?\]: they just might not be the good actions. lol
Samojlovic [3k\]: instead he prefers solid strategy and accurate control
Backflash [7k\]: you don't hear this from me but- concentrate on the other game please!
bis [-\]: concentrate on the game please.
Dango99: what game? :)
Backflash [7k\]: chess
Suola [3k\]: uhm, doesn't flash have like billion apm?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: I wonder E2 how you feel after all night drinking and dancing?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: are u talking to your self?
Mysto [?\]: lol.
Backflash [7k\]: you are e2 btw
Backflash [7k\]: tell us
Backflash [7k\]: and, e2 is in danger
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;W[gf]C[Backflash [7k\]: sort of
Shukai [3d\]: this looks impossible to sabaki
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: EuroGoTV2 is the organizer of this tournament!
Shukai [3d\]: for b
Muttley [2k\]: eurogotv for this board is off air?
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;B[gg]
;W[ge]C[Backflash [7k\]: no idea it asks to register again =\\
igolose [4k?\]: does w have two eyes already?
Shukai [3d\]: he will after he eats 
Backflash [7k\]: b wont allow
igolose [4k?\]: so not from left side alone?
Suola [3k\]: think he'd rather got out
Backflash [7k\]: both live
Suola [3k\]: than made life
Shukai [3d\]: except b is just plain floating
mate105 [3d\]: b makes w chilled
Shukai [3d\]: and white actually has a rooted foundation
mate105 [3d\]: :)
Shaomi [4d\]: thoso black stones are such a pain ..
Syptryn [4d\]: blacks 4 stones worht nothing now
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;B[fg]
;W[ie]C[RawDog [1d\]: ouch
SteveK [2k\]: could b have j15 instead?
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;B[jd]C[RawDog [1d\]: f13 is painful
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;W[ei]C[sensualsow: prolonging agony
Shukai [3d\]: b now running with no sente against white to use
RawDog [1d\]: yea
Muttley [2k\]: w reached yose before b
Backflash [7k\]: i'd drop those stones
RawDog [1d\]: g11 or something
Muttley [2k\]: I wouldn't
RawDog [1d\]: shoulda dropped'em before f13 imo
Muttley [2k\]: white dominates the centre if they are captured
RawDog [1d\]: b needed to let them go
Shaomi [4d\]: b should tenuki now
Backflash [7k\]: or, duild up on a threat of connecting them to something
Backflash [7k\]: build*
RobertT [-\]: whites position is already better
Backflash [7k\]: b has a bit of potential
SteveK [2k\]: tengen?
Zickkun [2k\]: hi just joined
Muttley [2k\]: maybe you are right if black extend from bottom to centre?
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;B[bk]C[Dango99: if he run he might kill his own left group
Muttley [2k\]: hi zickkun
RawDog [1d\]: painful
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;W[gi]C[Nefeste [3k\]: zyo zickhun
Backflash [7k\]: b9 =\\
Muttley [2k\]: G11 would have been my move instead of B9
sensualsow: tig11. no kidding.
LeT [-\]: b´s strategy seems ok so far
RawDog [1d\]: seems better to play out with e9 than b9
sensualsow: g11
mate105 [3d\]: h11
Zickkun [2k\]: who are these people on kgs?
Backflash [7k\]: look up
Zickkun [2k\]: how?
igolose [4k?\]: what is in white's hand?
sensualsow: anyway. i think b's strategy is2 force w2 kill2 win
Muttley [2k\]: Tournament in Romania, game info at the top of the board zick
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;B[hh]
;W[hi]C[RawDog [1d\]: anyone got the kaya link
Backflash [7k\]: Zick, by moving your head up
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;B[jh]C[Nefeste [3k\]: using eyes muscle ) there are no KGS nicknames so..
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;W[ii]C[Nefeste [3k\]: just real names
Zickkun [2k\]: umm.. i can only see the ceiling
Totti10 [1k\]: this isnt good for b
Backflash [7k\]: b res in 50 moves
Zickkun [2k\]: u mean they don't have kgs account?
Nefeste [3k\]: they have
Backflash [7k\]: danek maybe has one
Totti10 [1k\]: w does
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;B[kg]C[Muttley [2k\]: zick, they are not playing on kgs, this a eurogotv game relay
bis [-\]: w is crowis
RawDog [1d\]: theyr Euro
DubbThee [2k\]: b in so much trouble.
RawDog [1d\]: they probably for sure have kgs accounts
LeT [-\]: b plays on IGS
mate105 [3d\]: y b has to help this group in the first place?
Backflash [7k\]: we all missunderstood Zivk it seems
RawDog [1d\]: igs so lame
Backflash [7k\]: Zick*
Totti10 [1k\]: b really not getting anything from this group
Zickkun [2k\]: cool, crowis
LeT [-\]: IGS good for slow players
DubbThee [2k\]: too heavy to give up now.
Zickkun [2k\]: wow, when you see a serious asian face with glasses, you know you are in trouble
RawDog [1d\]: igs is cool and hearless
RawDog [1d\]: cold*
Backflash [7k\]: haha
RawDog [1d\]: heartless*
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;W[ih]
;B[ig]C[LeT [-\]: :-)
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;W[jf]C[RawDog [1d\]: yea funny miss
Totti10 [1k\]: igs is a wasteland of a server
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;B[jg]C[Nefeste [3k\]: In-Seong Hwang is solaris on KGS if i right )
mate105 [3d\]: i dont think so
Backflash [7k\]: no
Dango99: no solaris is pop
ronnyss [4k\]: solaris is pop
Nefeste [3k\]: aha everybody wakes up )
Zickkun [2k\]: what is a Shusaku Cup by the way?
Muttley [2k\]: name of the tournament
SteveK [2k\]: a cup of wisdom...
Backflash [7k\]: is cup which shusaku used, winner gets it
SteveK [2k\]: cool, a relic
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;W[kj]
;B[li]
;W[lj]C[mate105 [3d\]: b slammed the stone ?
ausrussell [4k\]: is In-Seong his/her name or does In- mean insei?
Muttley [2k\]: eurogotv1 still off air :(
mate105 [3d\]: name
Backflash [7k\]: name ofc
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: it is not
ausrussell [4k\]: ta
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;B[ni]C[Muttley [2k\]: that's what I get when I log in
mate105 [3d\]: wat is the time setting euro?
Shukai [3d\]: i wonder if white chase him all the way to end =)
Nefeste [3k\]: crowis
Backflash [7k\]: white will
Backflash [7k\]: it helps w
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcasts of these games on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1  and 2
mtarn567 [12k?\]: yeah, that nice wall
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: not off air
Zickkun [2k\]: I heard there's certain aggressiveness in Korean baduk
LeT [-\]: R8 seems to be the crucial point for both
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;W[mj]C[Nefeste [3k\]: w want black to play l14? )
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: s6
mate105 [3d\]: H3 or J3 or sthelse?
LeT [-\]: solaris watching the game
mate105 [3d\]: about to ask
mate105 [3d\]: thank LeT
Muttley [2k\]: hmm, works with IE, but not google chrome, thanks Eurogotv :)
mate105 [3d\]: he is tall
albak [9d\]: this game is from beginning to end white's
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ah, thx for telling, will check that
Backflash [7k\]: yep
Muttley [2k\]: np. thanks for the link fo course :)
Muttley [2k\]: is that solaris on the right?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
Muttley [2k\]: who is he talking to>
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: president of Romanian Go
mtarn567 [12k?\]: I think an attack from below it in order now
Muttley [2k\]: right, thanks :)
orro [1d?\]: Tsurukame
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;B[mi]
;W[pi]C[albak [9d\]: now white just leans on black and black will collapse
sensualsow: ouch
LeT [-\]: R8
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: s6.....
Muttley [2k\]: Black is in trouble from the glance he just gave at white
Shukai [3d\]: i bet b knew he was gonna be chased but just not to the ends of the earth
Zickkun [2k\]: L14 easy way out
Zickkun [2k\]: of the tournament
Backflash [7k\]: haha
lalalol: color balance for video of artem's game is out of whack
Backflash [7k\]: oh, i am too receptive to jokes this morning=\\
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;B[mc]C[mate105 [3d\]: yeah pop is playing and he took a  break :P
Zickkun [2k\]: XD
mate105 [3d\]: seems so relax
Zickkun [2k\]: who's pop?
Backflash [7k\]: christian pop
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;W[le]C[Muttley [2k\]: is he still a bus driver?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: great popy, 8 times romanian champion
Backflash [7k\]: he is?
Backflash [7k\]: wow
Shukai [3d\]: w almost connected two walls from one side to the other...
Muttley [2k\]: that's what I heard a long time ago :)
Backflash [7k\]: he is cool guy,i think better of him now
Muttley [2k\]: Any other Romanians playing, apart from Toxxi?
jwc [-\]: lots
Muttley [2k\]: thx
lecher: where is catalin?
Imvatim [?\]: n17 seems bad
thejurist [1k\]: what is b going to do with his middle group
RobertT [-\]: wake me up when black resigns
euphoric [7k?\]: Hwang just.... yawned D:
Backflash [7k\]: kibitz keeps this game alive,barely
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;B[ld]C[igolose [4k?\]: if b lives, he's still ahead in solid territory?
RawDog [1d\]: i wish u could watch vid and see game at same time
Shukai [3d\]: if b lives his right side group might have some problems
mtarn567 [12k?\]: you need 2 screens mate, lol
reprisal [-\]: or one big oe
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;W[me]C[reprisal [-\]: large monitors are amazing
RawDog [1d\]: kaya gonna have it
qqqw: i just counted and i think w'll be ahead 
albak [9d\]: it's over
qqqw: r side territory is too big
albak [9d\]: even if i play black, it's over
Muttley [2k\]: w looks so bored
LeT [-\]: how is it over?
sensualsow: albak. most of us r not 9d
calz1: who's albak?
mate105 [3d\]: albak, is b's position that bad?
RawDog [1d\]: look at it
Muttley [2k\]: how do you live?
Shukai [3d\]: b run on dame to live I guess
Zickkun [2k\]: how do you judge who's winning?  I don't think either of them has much territory so b has a chance if he can live
mtarn567 [12k?\]: maybe it's time to give up that r7 stone eh?
qqqw: b will be behind on territory. so where can he make more territory? not easy!
mtarn567 [12k?\]: hmmm true
albak [9d\]: that's the most important thing about baduk
albak [9d\]: knowing what's big and small
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;B[ph]C[mtarn567 [12k?\]: the centre is where the fight will be soon
RobertT [-\]: albak is big, everyone else is small
RawDog [1d\]: b dont look happy
albak [9d\]: b is just playing for fun
Zickkun [2k\]: yeah, he's being hugged
mate105 [3d\]: let w seal?
RawDog [1d\]: this seems bad
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;W[qh]C[albak [9d\]: b doesn't understanding baduk on the basic level
Zickkun [2k\]: is baduk different from go?
mate105 [3d\]: which is?
Muttley [2k\]: what is "the basic level"?
euphoric [7k?\]: it's Korean Go
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: about 5d
]
;B[pj]C[Zickkun [2k\]: so it's kinda different?
mate105 [3d\]: baduk=go
RawDog [1d\]: hahaha
euphoric [7k?\]: why did they match an 8d against a 5d in the first place?
euphoric [7k?\]: It's on a completely different level
RawDog [1d\]: tourny
euphoric [7k?\]: than regular go
mate105 [3d\]: cause they are one only 8d
Backflash [7k\]: what?
euphoric [7k?\]: is it round robin?
mate105 [3d\]: there is
RawDog [1d\]: w p11
Zickkun [2k\]: I think even Kyus can rise to 1dan in a tournament
RawDog [1d\]: good move
euphoric [7k?\]: ... I'm confused. I have no idea what's going on anymore
Sur [4k?\]: W is former european champion, he isn't that bad :-)
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;W[oi]C[Sur [4k?\]: I mean black
RawDog [1d\]: laggin a bit behind
Zickkun [2k\]: wow this move
Zickkun [2k\]: looks so mean
RawDog [1d\]: w is right
gobudo [2d\]: black runs for his life and loses the game, simple story
RawDog [1d\]: look at what hes doin to r side
Shukai [3d\]: O10?
LastAngel [?\]: never heard of vladimir danek... russian?
Sur [4k?\]: Czech
albak [9d\]: i don't know why hwang inseong is playing in a game like this
RawDog [1d\]: jezz
Zickkun [2k\]: why not?
RawDog [1d\]: easy mr 9d
LeT [-\]: albak your comments are..
calz1: in open tournaments, you have to play whoever you're paired against
LeT [-\]: like your games record
mate105 [3d\]: now i feel like 9d is tr**ling :P
LeT [-\]: something´s strange about it
Shukai [3d\]: well they always said go was a surrounding game
Backflash [7k\]: koreans are rude evryone knows it
Shukai [3d\]: seems it is clear here
Muttley [2k\]: I have white about 12 points ahead
thejurist [1k\]: "koreans are rude evryone knows it"
calz1: just because you're statistically favored to win, doesn't mean the tournament directors will automatically grant you the win
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcasts of these games on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1  and 2
Muttley [2k\]: and that's a conservative estimate
thejurist [1k\]: :S
Dango99: w play in games like this becouse he could not make it to pro
albak [9d\]: what i mean is -- i don't understand why hwang entered the tournament in the first place
Dango99: but still like playing
NiceGuy [-\]: no choice only o10?
calz1: well, no one here could make it to pro either
albak [9d\]: he's enough to teach everyone in this tournament at least for the next 10 years
RawDog [1d\]: exactly
euphoric [7k?\]: Hwang isn't... a pro?
RawDog [1d\]: o
calz1: free money from playing go is hard to come by
RawDog [1d\]: do u get money if u win
Backflash [7k\]: dunno, it's just danek, he is not strongest 5d uot there
orro [1d?\]: Hwang got almost beaten yesterday bay bajenaru 6d
LastAngel [?\]: no, just an korean ama
Sur [4k?\]: well it's 1200 EUR for the first place
Backflash [7k\]: will see how he plays artem
jwc [-\]: he can show how good he is
RawDog [1d\]: not bad
igolose [4k?\]: how many high dans in this tournament?
albak [9d\]: which game?
euphoric [7k?\]: Artem is playing really well
albak [9d\]: was hwang almost beaten?
euphoric [7k?\]: First game
Muttley [2k\]: Toxxi lost on time in a close game
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;B[nj]
;W[oj]C[Suola [3k\]: win is a win
]
;B[nk]C[Muttley [2k\]: maybe ahead
]
;W[ok]C[euphoric [7k?\]: calculated that Hwong won by .5
albak [9d\]: ah i was watching -- no hwang was winning for sure
LastAngel [?\]: harry, atr there news about chi-min oh?
orro [1d?\]: yes, bajenaru lost on time in a very close game
Zickkun [2k\]: how many games are being played at this moment?
euphoric [7k?\]: Yea, bajenaru came up from behind
albak [9d\]: he's being gentle ^^
Oloril [-\]: There's a big difference between winning by a small amount and almost losing.
mate105 [3d\]: if w is way too good for this tournament, he may not enter every tournament in EU
Shukai [3d\]: P11 is like tesuji denial
LastAngel [?\]: atr = are
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: chi min will be out of the army really soon
LastAngel [?\]: thanks 
RawDog [1d\]: its cool to watch the vid to
gobudo [2d\]: if north koreans don't do stupid things...
RawDog [1d\]: some1 should them together
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;B[oh]C[albak [9d\]: who is chi min?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Oh
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Korean 7d
LastAngel [?\]: korean ama who lived in ger for a year
RawDog [1d\]: hahaha
Backflash [7k\]: germans let them in army?
RawDog [1d\]: so funny watchin them play
Backflash [7k\]: hm
albak [9d\]: i think ex-pro trainees should not be allowed in these tournaments
gobudo [2d\]: no, he went home, in south korea
RawDog [1d\]: well
Backflash [7k\]: why? they don't win them
calz1: so Jan Simara can't play?
RawDog [1d\]: guess its a good ur not in charge
Backflash [7k\]: local 7ds do
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;W[qj]C[Muttley [2k\]: albak, why not?  Good for euro players to play someone else strong
Backflash [7k\]: well not always, but mostly
calz1: there are ex-pro trainees who are european
Shukai [3d\]: b really should just settle with one gote
Backflash [7k\]: plus it's a good show for us:)
albak [9d\]: because you get one sided games like this
thejurist [1k\]: but how can you arrange for that
Dango99: nearly all the younger euro topplayers hd pro training
Backflash [7k\]: it doesn't happen that often
]
;B[jj]C[Syptryn [4d\]: hwang does not win every tourney
calz1: the very IDEA of these open tournaments is to attract strong players
]
;W[ji]
;B[ki]
;W[jk]C[albak [9d\]: ex pro trainees don't win the tournament? then who does?
albak [9d\]: hwang can't win this tournament?
trojanXL: some euro kid could get to hwang level soon
Backflash [7k\]: shikshin does:)
mego [-\]: gosh.. you are annoying
albak [9d\]: someone should fly me out there -- i'll win it for you
lalalol: this game dont seem so lopsided
RawDog [1d\]: jezz
gobudo [2d\]: danek's attitude is not ok
Syptryn [4d\]: European 6d csaba Nero beat crowis last year
thejurist [1k\]: come to the euro congres this year albak?
Tihamer [2k\]: Mero Csaba
gobudo [2d\]: danek despises the korean
Backflash [7k\]: why?
RawDog [1d\]: really
RawDog [1d\]: y
Backflash [7k\]: he is losing to one)
trojanXL: racist?
gobudo [2d\]: maybe
RawDog [1d\]: spill it
]
;B[ol]C[RawDog [1d\]: u cant just say stuff like that and then not follow up
Dango99: dont make up stories we dont need them
Syptryn [4d\]: hwangs opponent Here is not a top European player
Backflash [7k\]: far from it
RawDog [1d\]: yea
Shukai [3d\]: finally a sorta honest move
trojanXL: 5D is pretty top
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;W[pl]C[albak [9d\]: so who is a top european player?
gobudo [2d\]: I just said Danek's attitude towards the korean is not ok
albak [9d\]: how is Danek?
albak [9d\]: * i mean who is Danek?
RawDog [1d\]: and then we asked y
Muttley [2k\]: Danek is black in this game
zeku [1k\]: black
calz1: who are you?
albak [9d\]: ah ;)
Syptryn [4d\]: csaba, artem, illya are all 1-2 stones stronger than this guy
Muttley [2k\]: heh, helps :)
]
;B[om]C[gobudo [2d\]: I won't say more, watch for yourselves
]
;W[ql]C[trojanXL: anyone know the Danek kgs handle?
RawDog [1d\]: lol
RawDog [1d\]: gotta be some euro thing
Zickkun [2k\]: where can i find the ranking?
albak [9d\]: artem is in the other game?
Shukai [3d\]: so net result from chase is b got top and white got right and white got middle wall
lalalol: yes
Backflash [7k\]: yea crushing 5d
Muttley [2k\]: Danek has represented his country in the World ama, I do believe
albak [9d\]: ;)
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;B[rp]
;W[rq]C[Dango99: Danek was euro topplayer when i started to play go
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Danek learned Go when he was 18, i learned it when i was 38
qqqw: b all-in?
Gouda [?\]: are results of susaku cup online?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: In-Seong stopped learning when he was 18
poep [3k\]: how strong are you euro?:>
pok [3k\]: lol 
IIMeijinII [-\]: Is there video feed for this?
trojanXL: euro-pro
LastAngel [?\]: 1-2d poep
RawDog [1d\]: stopped learning
qqqw: let's see the magic kill!!
Tihamer [2k\]: www.shusaku.ro
IIMeijinII [-\]: *Is there video feed for this game?
Muttley [2k\]: someone watching this asked me if white is my son :)
Backflash [7k\]: hahah
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcasts of these games on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1  and 2
]
;B[rn]C[lalalol: *wonders if it is prudent for eurogo to make editorial comments here?*
Muttley [2k\]: my son skateboards ...
Zickkun [2k\]: wow, who is Kyoung-Nang Kang?  I find this girl on 
Zickkun [2k\]: http://www.britgo.org/teaching/teaching.html
IIMeijinII [-\]: Thank you, EuroGoTV1! :-)
albak [9d\]: inseong was stronger than black when he was 14 ^^
RawDog [1d\]: b was so happy to capture
IIMeijinII [-\]: Oh!
jwc [-\]: Danek is currently 73 on the european rating list
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;W[mr]C[RawDog [1d\]: and bruce lee didnt start martial arts until mid 20
Zickkun [2k\]: it looks like there nothing left for black
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i will stop making editorial comments and start my usuall trolling
RawDog [1d\]: hahaha
RawDog [1d\]: cool
Shukai [3d\]: is it endgame now?
]
;B[nb]
;W[ob]C[RobertT [-\]: are there any weak groups?
mtarn567 [11k?\]: n4 looks big right now
Shukai [3d\]: is K4 weak?
RobertT [-\]: if yes then its middle game, if no then its endgame
]
;B[pf]
;W[pg]
;B[og]C[RawDog [1d\]: i feel like b can presure d4
]
;W[qg]C[lalalol: is that how you tell chuban from yose? if there are any weak groups left?
Zickkun [2k\]: I forgot, back then there was a kgs person named fj?  is he high ranked?
LastAngel [?\]: who is this 9d here? 
Lebowski [3d\]: fj is 6d
Muttley [2k\]: fj dickhut, won the german ch this year
Muttley [2k\]: german national treasure :)
RobertT [-\]: lol
RobertT [-\]: kgs 6d national treasure....
trojanXL: I wish Roln was here to play Hwang
RobertT [-\]: >.>
Muttley [2k\]: he will ...
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;B[fr]C[RawDog [1d\]: haha
Muttley [2k\]: artem will do it for him
Shukai [3d\]: ok definitely endgame now
NeedaDrink [3d\]: i wish  cornel and pop beat him
RawDog [1d\]: funny watchin b now that some1 said he dont like korean
]
;W[bp]C[lalalol: is B 'illidan'?
]
;B[bo]
;W[aq]C[albak [9d\]: there is a live stream?
Muttley [2k\]: ignore it, rawdog :)
qqqw: why didn't b try to kill white in lower right?
RawDog [1d\]: where have u been
gooooo [-\]: albak, http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
]
;B[go]
;W[lp]C[lalalol: kill LR?? how?
mtarn567 [11k?\]: here comes the centre fight :)
]
;B[kp]C[qqqw: before N2
]
;W[ls]C[andreiraz [2k\]: where are the results
qqqw: S6 seems quite meaningless?
trojanXL: long yose
gobudo [2d\]: white is already ahead by at least 15 points
Shukai [3d\]: yah we got like 130 more moves of yose unless b resigns early
mtarn567 [12k?\]: k2
Shukai [3d\]: avg game ends at 250 moves or something
albak [9d\]: thanks gooooo
Zickkun [2k\]: yose is fun
albak [9d\]: subscribe?
RawDog [1d\]: its free
Muttley [2k\]: yose is fun?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: easy and free
gooooo [-\]: free stream, might need account though
Muttley [2k\]: what kind of a sick puppy are you?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: black in byo yomi
euphoric [7k?\]: did... b just resign?
euphoric [7k?\]: oh
titipaw: black in byo-yomi?
Muttley [2k\]: yose = god's punishment for not winning in the middlegame
albak [9d\]: i want to point my finger at hwang ;)
]
;B[kr]C[trojanXL: which one?
sensualsow: punishing both, i guess
]
;W[ks]
;B[js]
;W[ms]
;B[ir]
;W[ec]
;B[eb]C[LastAngel [?\]: who is albak?
]
;W[fb]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: a 9d
mtarn567 [12k?\]: ouch
euphoric [7k?\]: G18 should be fine, right?
RawDog [1d\]: o snap
Harunobu [1k\]: ooo ahhh
RawDog [1d\]: does this work
Shukai [3d\]: its just yose
Harunobu [1k\]: looks scary
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;B[db]
;W[hc]C[Muttley [2k\]: Albak = Albanian AK47
]
;B[gb]C[Shukai [3d\]: ok now maybe its scary
]
;W[kd]C[trojanXL: I think alback is high55
zeku [1k\]: milan
euphoric [7k?\]: oh
albak [9d\]: inseong has lost his baduk sharpness i think
euphoric [7k?\]: didn't see that
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;B[kc]
;W[ke]C[LeT [-\]: albak is the first 9d i have censored in my KGS client
RawDog [1d\]: good yose
Isobeutel [2k\]: albak, why lost?
RawDog [1d\]: hahaha
titipaw: albak is a fake 9d, don't listen to him
Muttley [2k\]: concentrate on the game?
albak [9d\]: i know inseong personally
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;B[lc]C[jwc [-\]: and?
Zickkun [2k\]: isn't crowis a starcraft player?
albak [9d\]: we have played countless games before
DanielTom [-\]: W wins
]
;W[na]
;B[ma]
;W[oa]C[albak [9d\]: and how am i a fake 9d?
Harunobu [1k\]: I know someone who went to school with Hikaru No Go
Muttley [2k\]: Danek has been punched by Chuck Norris
Muttley [2k\]: that's beat all, sorry :)
]
;B[oe]C[RawDog [1d\]: he strong
albak [9d\]: it is like 20 point endgame
]
;W[nc]C[Muttley [2k\]: F8 white really not points for white?
RawDog [1d\]: he play with inrei
Rukis [11k\]: chuck norris annihilates teh board
albak [9d\]: that is why i said before -- b needs to learn more about big and small
RawDog [1d\]: inrei beat cheater
RawDog [1d\]: and freddo
RawDog [1d\]: both solid 7ds
Muttley [2k\]: wow, can white create a seki at the top?
will69 [18k\]: doesnt k17 destroy b at top?
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;B[nd]C[albak [9d\]: oh no -_-
Shukai [3d\]: why cut here?
Zahlman [1d\]: wow what is this?
Muttley [2k\]: desperation
]
;W[mb]C[Zahlman [1d\]: hunting the whole w group?
Harunobu [1k\]: resign
trojanXL: attacking h11???
]
;B[bi]
;W[bh]C[Zahlman [1d\]: seems so
]
;B[aj]C[Torajiro [-\]: this a dream
Torajiro [-\]: *is
RawDog [1d\]: seriously
Shukai [3d\]: O16 is like a zero point move
Zahlman [1d\]: can probably get both eyes in middle lol
Zickkun [2k\]: monkey jung?
trojanXL: at least b goes down fighting
Zickkun [2k\]: oh w need to make life
Muttley [2k\]: not exactly hard to live here
]
;W[hb]
;B[fa]C[will69 [18k\]: why no K17 for w?
Rukis [11k\]: k17
albak [9d\]: what was b thinking?
]
;W[jc]
;B[ic]
;W[jb]C[RawDog [1d\]: no idea
]
;B[ib]C[Rukis [11k\]: l18
DanielTom [-\]: resign?
RawDog [1d\]: painful point los
Shukai [3d\]: nm o16 was prob negative points
Shukai [3d\]: not even zero point
RawDog [1d\]: hahaha
trojanXL: o16 terrible but at least not slow, quiet death
Zickkun [2k\]: i have never seen shapes like these
Zickkun [2k\]: did something happen while i was kicked off kgs?
Jinni [1k\]: everything happened you missed it
NiceOne [6k\]: yes, they placed stones
albak [9d\]: from beginning to end, w was leading
trojanXL: where were the fuseki mistakes, albak?
Shukai [3d\]: b probably already resigned
albak [9d\]: opening mistakes?
trojanXL: yes
]
;W[ka]C[igolose [4k?\]: should have d12 instead of f14
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: W+R
albak [9d\]: biggest one is c14 movement
albak [9d\]: but moves like m2
albak [9d\]: too many -- need to relearn everything
Zickkun [2k\]: where are they playing? It looks so high class.  
trojanXL: m2 should be m4, right?
Katsushiro [3k\]: hello blonde chick
NiceOne [6k\]: why white didnt play ko?
albak [9d\]: no need to
albak [9d\]: ah w won
trojanXL: when you said c14 movement, did you mean d14 move?
Zickkun [2k\]: video stopped
Muttley [2k\]: use IE, zick
euphoric [7k?\]: WHO WON!?!?!?!
mate105 [3d\]: not stop yet
Muttley [2k\]: black resigned
euphoric [7k?\]: oh
euphoric [7k?\]: about time
Elodin [3k\]: what is hwang explaining?
Zickkun [2k\]: does Danek really have a problem with Korean?
Zickkun [2k\]: he seems polite
trojanXL: doesn't seem racist
Muttley [2k\]: I think that was trolling, zick
albak [9d\]: why would someone have a problem with korean?
Shukai [3d\]: xenophobia i guess
igolose [4k?\]: envy
Muttley [2k\]: hard game, good lesson
will69 [18k\]: they live too far from me thats why! i hate them cause they dont teach me TT.TT
sensualsow: gobrain envy
albak [9d\]: nothing to do with brain
albak [9d\]: just matter of time and training methods
zife [-\]: why would someone have a problem with japanese, chinese, americans or russians?
Zickkun [2k\]: who's the fat lady?
trojanXL: she's singing
trojanXL: so now its over
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Hi, It's In-seong :-) I hope you enjoy the EurogoTV!
Zickkun [2k\]: cool!
Zickkun [2k\]: it really is you?
lalalol: thanks for game:)
Luffyop [2d\]: YEEESSS thx  *_* <3
Zickkun [2k\]: that was strong calm go
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Black should have played H,11 instead of H12,
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: after I push H,11, I feel that I got better.
albak [9d\]: let's play a game
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: F14 also, D,12 was better.
LeT [-\]: how did u feel b D14?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: it was OK.
LeT [-\]: thx
Lebowski [3d\]: in your face albak ^^
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: I saw the last game comment, many people asked me my ID in KGS, it's çrowis but I don't play ranking game, I just teach with this ID.
Zickkun [2k\]: moves like H11 and D12 are beyond my level XP
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: oops, something wrong with c, crowis
eatramen [?\]: is there a stream?
albak [9d\]: stop beating up weak players
Zickkun [2k\]: I wonder who doesn't have a kgs account XD
Suola [3k\]: probably the guys who are actually good at this game
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Haha; I'm weak too;
calz1: if you're paired against a player, you're expected to play him/her and do your best, albak
albak [9d\]: hope to see you soon ^^
calz1: doing otherwise would be disrespectful
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: albak, can I ask who you are?
albak [9d\]: ㅋㅋㅋ 아니
albak [9d\]: ^^
albak [9d\]: i cheering for you
euphoric [7k?\]: a person checking their facebook
euphoric [7k?\]: on a camera
albak [9d\]: ㅋ님바잉
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: he must be Korean ;-p
Zickkun [2k\]: where is the tournament held?
DejMiPivo [6k\]: or using google translate
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: so, I gotta go for lunch, see y ou! have a good lunch!
Zickkun [2k\]: thx
Zickkun [2k\]: is that carpet?
Zickkun [2k\]: dang, an ipad
Zickkun [2k\]: lol crowis's girlfriend
Harunobu [1k\]: Is this game over?
Mortis [5d?\]: huh 8d? i thought amateur ranks only go up to 7d, at least in europe
Zickkun [2k\]: who is In-Seong's girlfriend?
Zickkun [2k\]: is she in the tournament?
Tihamer [2k\]: he's wife
Zickkun [2k\]: cool
Shedal [3d\]: when's the next round?
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