(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]HA[3]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[1x10 byo-yomi] GN[Demonstration game Shusaku-cup 2010 board 1]PW[Xihe Luo ]PB[Ondrej Silt]WR[9p]BR[6d]DT[2010-03-25]EV[Demonstration game Shusaku-cup 2010 board 1]PC[Tirgu Mures, Romania]US[HW9x9]AB[pd][dp][pp]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: game starts in 7 minutes MilanChe [-\]: euro you broadcasting from romania? Ildefonse [3k\]: anyone know on which board BUM plays? Yurial [2d?\]: 9p!! Farouche [3d\]: Oh my God Luo Xihe live! He is so going to crash Silt Dino9 [6d\]: i bet on Ondrej pocs: no way SeoTaiji [1k\]: oh.... Dino9 [6d\]: what no way? DoubleLion [2k\]: 9p DoubleLion [2k\]: wow Marek [5d\]: 1$ for B Farouche [3d\]: Considering Luo Xihe's shape lately, there's no way he is going to lose. Although I believe that he might want to make it interesting enough to watch. pocs: Ondrej cannot win EuroGoTV1 [-\]: waiting for the clock EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ^^ Marek [5d\]: ;) PQnelson [-\]: im with pocs DoubleLion [2k\]: is silt strong? any good? pocs: but it will be interesting ... i hope TPA [-\]: coooool!!! pocs: silt wery strong WEAKLING [4d?\]: BUM has been practicing getting crushed with handicap pocs: but ... amateur ... WEAKLING [4d?\]: he will paly us a good game TPA [-\]: bum is b? WEAKLING [4d?\]: go BUM!! MilanChe [-\]: does ondrej play on kgs? Dino9 [6d\]: no Dino9 [6d\]: he is there Dino9 [6d\]: but dont play TPA [-\]: oh MilanChe [-\]: not now... DoubleLion [2k\]: so b is not bum? lordik [12k\]: no MilanChe [-\]: i see, he is BUM? WEAKLING [4d?\]: not bum? ive ben mislead Ildefonse [3k\]: no its not BUM DoubleLion [2k\]: ok thx Dino9 [6d\]: this tournament is some kind of pros vs amateurs? Ildefonse [3k\]: BUM is Jan Simara TPA [-\]: yah ByakuyaK [8k\]: 6p vs 9p? Farouche [3d\]: Well, okay, I mistook Luo Xihe for Kong Jie, but I still think that he could crush B half drunk TPA [-\]: its like meeting a celebrity on kgs -_- Dino9 [6d\]: Bum is 5d not 6d Ildefonse [3k\]: 6d amateur ByakuyaK [8k\]: ah DoubleLion [2k\]: from weheer? WEAKLING [4d?\]: this makes me very sad, but it is still xihe ByakuyaK [8k\]: and 9d amateur? Lakotnik [4k\]: 9p! Ildefonse [3k\]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luo_Xihe DoubleLion [2k\]: where is b from? ByakuyaK [8k\]: doesnt the amateur need much more stones?? Ildefonse [3k\]: china EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 Orandajinn [2k?\]: dzialAAA Ildefonse [3k\]: oh sorry no, thats white PQnelson [-\]: when exactly does dis start? Orandajinn [2k?\]: tomorrow EuroGoTV1 [-\]: at the moment the clocks arrive EuroGoTV1 [-\]: any second now Ildefonse [3k\]: oo bad the video so laggy Dino9 [6d\]: what means Demo games? miao [6d\]: lol KoReNJe [3d\]: a KoReNJe [3d\]: hello cb22 [4k\]: woowoo KoReNJe [3d\]: full of hairy, where is this game taking plance? sweety [-\]: exhibition match, i think EuroGoTV1 [-\]: hi, still not booted miao [6d\]: xie will lose Ildefonse [3k\]: romania KoReNJe [3d\]: 9p is in romania? Arkienkeli [5k\]: WUBWUBWUBWUB 9P Harmony [-\]: Luo Xihe is insanely strong... KoReNJe [3d\]: is he? Harmony [-\]: will be an interesting game KoReNJe [3d\]: is he top pro? deculture [1k?\]: who is he on here? cb22 [4k\]: only 3 stones handi ? Ildefonse [3k\]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luo_Xihe unperson [6d?\]: very strong chinese pro KoReNJe [3d\]: too bad silt is only 6d here Ildefonse [3k\]: he is considered the highest IQ player in china Harmony [-\]: if it's the Luo Xihe I know, he defeated Lee Changho in Samsung cup final... KoReNJe [3d\]: or something Zyamka [13k\]: PLAY! EuroGoTV2 [-\]: probably top 15 in china EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 Harmony [-\]: he's one of the strongest players in China lichigo [1k\]: yes Orandajinn [2k?\]: kaas ikisju [11k\]: cheese KoReNJe [3d\]: I am considered also the highest iq player... in the world. Orandajinn [2k?\]: :D PQnelson [-\]: Pa-ROOV it cb22 [4k\]: Luo Xihe has sit down where's his opponent ? KoReNJe [3d\]: what is w doing? ] ;W[dc]C[KoReNJe [3d\]: come on. play ] ;B[de] ;W[nq]C[pocs: what does it mean highest IQ player? ] ;B[lq] ;W[gp]C[cb22 [4k\]: why there's nothing on the video ? PQnelson [-\]: i think you mean PQ ^^ ] ;B[ip]C[Snogington [2k\]: wow nice, xihe luo!! ] ;W[dn]C[Eschaton: is that taisha? KoReNJe [3d\]: video has a lot of lag ] ;B[eo]C[cb22 [4k\]: yup ] ;W[gn] ;B[en]C[KoReNJe [3d\]: do something hair ] ;W[no] ;B[pn]C[Elohim [2k\]: they play very fast ] ;W[in]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: how much delay? Yannick123 [11k\]: much ratata [2k\]: 3-4 stones ] ;B[ko] ;W[nm] ;B[km]C[KoReNJe [3d\]: must be poor romanian interet KoReNJe [3d\]: internet :p ] ;W[pl]C[uzmest [1k\]: 10-15 seconds ] ;B[pq]C[Pulcik [-\]: go Mano go!:) ] ;W[el]C[daladim [1d\]: they play too fast KoReNJe [3d\]: w doing nice moves MilanChe [-\]: you think? SeoTaiji [1k\]: already strong shape KoReNJe [3d\]: I hope green wins petition [3k\]: e8 is beautiful chrpa [1d\]: wow :) Ondrej vs Xihe Luo ] ;B[em] ;W[dl] ;B[fl]C[unperson [6d?\]: white famous for playing very fast ] ;W[fm]C[Windir [2d\]: cut ] ;B[dm]C[Windir [2d\]: looks like fun ] ;W[cl]C[KoReNJe [3d\]: b is probably too weak for w KoReNJe [3d\]: so w doesn't need to think a lot Orandajinn [2k?\]: how much time do they have..? jamesbonds [5k\]: 9p softy [6d\]: b IS weak Windir [2d\]: should become interesting Harmony [-\]: he just always play fast... A1R [5k\]: why isnt artem playing? softy [6d\]: e7 shows b's level ] ;B[cm]C[uzmest [1k\]: video broke ? Warlord [1k?\]: b is much more strong than anyone else here Woodstock [-\]: why not D8 instead of E7? norsu [2k\]: video does not work! ] ;W[iq]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i stopped it EuroGoTV1 [-\]: w8 ] ;B[jq]C[XY0908 [-\]: Does Mr. Silt play at KGS? Harmony [-\]: as macisajt no ? ] ;W[dr]C[MilanChe [-\]: no elvard [3k\]: I've never seen him here... Eschaton: is black being chased? KoReNJe [3d\]: euroob, where can I see the results? daladim [1d\]: nope macisajt is pal balogh Ripples [3k\]: yes KoReNJe [3d\]: from the tourney Ripples [3k\]: he's takanashi Harmony [-\]: ah yes, my bad Ripples [3k\]: 6d. softy [6d\]: d8 better than e7 nedmunds: why no video ? XY0908 [-\]: Who is Christian Pop? ] ;B[dq]C[Woodstock [-\]: ondrey used to play as kvschool on kgs EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 Woodstock [-\]: but not so much lately dchyang [?\]: why clock is not ticking? KoReNJe [3d\]: why it's not full hd? ] ;W[il]C[XY0908 [-\]: Both players are incredible. ] ;B[fk] ;W[di]C[KoReNJe [3d\]: who? me and xihe? A1R [5k\]: pop = solaris Woodstock [-\]: how many stones would you propose? XY0908 [-\]: Thanks, A1R. kejitsuu [16k\]: LOL @ KoReNJe kejitsuu [16k\]: >< norsu [2k\]: now video is real time. Thanks! MilanChe [-\]: finally A1R [5k\]: why isnt artem playing? KoReNJe [3d\]: ok. Arkienkeli [5k\]: because ondrej is Psychee [1d\]: black played too fast... Arkienkeli [5k\]: stupid question EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Artem was afraid of KoReNJe's talk MilanChe [-\]: lol ] ;B[hq]C[Orandajinn [2k?\]: je voudrais un broodje kaas Eschaton: h3 ] ;W[gq]C[Javaness [2d\]: hoi harry ] ;B[ho]C[kejitsuu [16k\]: :O undoooo! Ildefonse [3k\]: lol ] ;W[go] ;B[er] ;W[ir] ;B[hr] ;W[hp] ;B[jr] ;W[io]C[Woodstock [-\]: strange peep ] ;B[is]C[dfgb: that makes more sense^^ Dogen [5k\]: is this the actual game, or commentary? sum [4d\]: more aji kesh isense Iyaei [8k\]: live game Dogen [5k\]: I see a branch in the SGF tree ] ;W[fd]C[kejitsuu [16k\]: actual game ] ;B[fe] ;W[ge] ;B[ff]C[Iyaei [8k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 dchyang [?\]: is undo allowed? OttosMops [1k\]: b doesn't look too bad until now ] ;W[fi] ;B[cc] ;W[cb]C[softy [6d\]: b doing well sum [4d\]: undo = scribe typo EuroGoTV1 [-\]: sorry Psychee [1d\]: they do not need to press the clock themselves? Ildefonse [3k\]: it was probably not an undo but mistake ichi7e [1k\]: what time settings do they have? blurry [6k\]: 9p, holy cow Ildefonse [3k\]: of the transcription nedmunds: bit daunting playing a 9p daladim [1d\]: what is "typo" ? synonym of "missclick" ? dfgb: but with 3 handi Spirit [-\]: Reminds me of their 14th Samsung cup preliminaries game. Move 14 or sth lost the game then... EuroGoTV1 [-\]: only 340 people watching a 9p on KGS.... Yurial [2d?\]: full = typograpic error kejitsuu [16k\]: ondrej looks slightly nervous by the way he sits daladim [1d\]: ok thx sum [4d\]: is W strong in handipcap games? otherwise 5d should beat 9p in H3 degraeve [10k\]: salut chrpa [1d\]: these two games are demostrative and then begins shusaku cup right? kejitsuu [16k\]: 6d* degraeve [10k\]: shizukani sa va ??? ] ;B[cj]C[Warlord [1k?\]: ondrej sits that way pretty often :) degraeve [10k\]: depuis le temps ? sum [4d\]: even more 6d... dchyang [?\]: demostrative? chrpa [1d\]: demonstration bert [1d\]: u can easily confuse any1 with sppped PQnelson [-\]: Xihe Luo wa Ichiban desu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! kejitsuu [16k\]: no, not the hand on his chin, he was like literally leaning over the entire board ] ;W[ci]C[Ildefonse [3k\]: いちばんです? Yurial [2d?\]: lol@ clock guy ] ;B[bl] ;W[dj]C[PQnelson [-\]: i dont know kanji lol Javaness [2d\]: black looks a little busy Psychee [1d\]: someone took a clock in? ] ;B[bk]C[kryft [1k\]: Wow, Luo Xihe jamesbonds [5k\]: timer ] ;W[bj] ;B[ck] ;W[dk]C[Ildefonse [3k\]: is just hiragana ;) Yurial [2d?\]: "just" hiragana chrpa [1d\]: shusaku cup beautiful tournament - great weekand ahead of us :) EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 20 minutes each now PQnelson [-\]: oh lolzz ] ;B[ed]C[Psychee [1d\]: only 20 minutes? Yanwangye [3k\]: where is the tournement? Fanaticism [7k\]: why not e10 instead of d9? ] ;W[fc]C[blurry [6k\]: thx eurogotv michiko123 [7k\]: c10 make white stronger to attack f15 and f9 Ildefonse [3k\]: romania Yanwangye [3k\]: thx chrpa [1d\]: see eurogotv1 info ] ;B[gf] ;W[he] ;B[cd]C[gorga [1d\]: what's ondrej's kgs account? ] ;W[nc]C[Yanwangye [3k\]: ah i see, thx :) ] ;B[hf] ;W[ie]C[Woodstock [-\]: ondrej used to played as kvschool on kgs chrpa [1d\]: youp :), thats amazing tournament deculture [1k?\]: oh i remember that one weeeee: why does b play so fast as well?? Cruciatus [2k\]: w building in sente Eschaton: alzheimer dchyang [?\]: b has a huge low left corner shindon [-\]: yo ] ;B[if]C[Warlord [1k?\]: its not so huge shindon [-\]: ya ] ;W[je]C[Cruciatus [2k\]: perhaps not enought ] ;B[hk]C[Woodstock [-\]: less than 30 points in lower left Yurial [2d?\]: w happy to build on 5th line, I think petition [3k\]: fun starts now shindon [-\]: whites shape is good right now weeeee: h11 ] ;W[hi]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 ] ;B[ik]C[Cruciatus [2k\]: and two grpoups under attack calgacus [-\]: pushed w along the 5th - this better be good weeeee: why do they play vs pros? any tournament page? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: see my info ] ;W[jk]C[dchyang [?\]: i feel it is easier for b to fight Yurial [2d?\]: k8? weeeee: i have seen your info but there is no link to a tournament page Ildefonse [3k\]: hane k10 yush [17k?\]: white will kill h9 group Psychee [1d\]: will they do review together later? ] ;B[hl]C[Elena [13k\]: k8 now? Eschaton: g7 before? michiko123 [7k\]: k10 white now?? ] ;W[ij]C[Psychee [1d\]: http://www.shusaku.ro/en/eindex.html Psychee [1d\]: weeeee elvard [3k\]: even pushing along 6th line it's possible... I've seen that in one cho chikun's game as example of good using outer influence jamesbonds [5k\]: .. Windir [2d\]: uh Yurial [2d?\]: w want big kill, it see,s dchyang [?\]: who kills who? Windir [2d\]: seems the liberties are not enough Dino9 [6d\]: j7 k8 g7 Javaness [2d\]: atari atari Yurial [2d?\]: g7 Ildefonse [3k\]: g7 EuroGoTV1 [-\]: g7 Yurial [2d?\]: lol PQnelson [-\]: lookin nervous if you ask me softy [6d\]: h8 should just j11 ] ;B[im] ;W[jl]C[ByakuyaK [8k\]: b loses? SeoTaiji [1k\]: no he is ok SeoTaiji [1k\]: but white settle is shape SeoTaiji [1k\]: this isn't a bad result for white weeeee: th psychee PQnelson [-\]: X.L. looks chilled doesnt he? clumsy [4k\]: g7 dchyang [?\]: should I trust 9p? elvard [3k\]: h7 Ildefonse [3k\]: g7 fail Chameau20 [11k\]: K7 first ? MoeTheDoom [6k\]: g7 k7 missyou [6d\]: b dead Ildefonse [3k\]: nvm blurry [6k\]: XL looks way bored Arkienkeli [5k\]: b will h7 ] ;B[hm] ;W[jm]C[Chameau20 [11k\]: yes right ] ;B[hn] ;W[jn]C[gorga [1d\]: does anyone know silts kgs account? ] ;B[gm] ;W[fn] ;B[gk]C[Dino9 [6d\]: ouch ] ;W[cf]C[blurry [6k\]: sweet Ikuto [6k\]: ?? Dino9 [6d\]: b will live ] ;B[df] ;W[be]C[MoeTheDoom [6k\]: почему не g7 k7 ? Chrille [2k\]: but now w have some ko threats dchyang [?\]: w must kill some blacks now Fanaticism [7k\]: kill d14 group ;) Yurial [2d?\]: k10.....? Lalangamen [5k\]: потомучто тада ч кирдык Yurial [2d?\]: probably not l9xl9 [3k?\]: no need to kill imo w has large top and will probly eat right ] ;B[kg] ;W[qf] ;B[oe]C[elvard [3k\]: k10 looks too early... michiko123 [7k\]: o14 michiko123 [7k\]: make new joseki Ogronom [3k\]: who is playing? michiko123 [7k\]: LOL dchyang [?\]: resigned? ] ;W[nf]C[dchyang [?\]: why play again? Woodstock [-\]: cut is no good i think...white is alive on the left already michiko123 [7k\]: hahah... as i told o14 he make new joseki Woodstock [-\]: and K9 could easily link to the right side ganuong [4d\]: where does this game take place? Speedshin [1k\]: how is this "new"? Yurial [2d?\]: I see deculture [1k?\]: romania ] ;B[ki]C[deculture [1k?\]: ? ] ;W[jh]C[CptHook [7k\]: much of traffic there like a railway station... Bruno [1d\]: g 3 dead? ] ;B[jf]C[Snogington [2k\]: ya EuroGoTV1 [-\]: traffic? CptHook [7k\]: seems to me elvard [3k\]: lots of people walking aroung:) Eschaton: trollific ] ;W[ne] ;B[ke] ;W[kd]C[CptHook [7k\]: not really Yurial [2d?\]: like prolific with a tr ] ;B[ji]C[Bruno [1d\]: b have stomach ache Eschaton: or cold ] ;W[kh]C[Javaness [2d\]: better than bad breath SuperJohn [1k\]: today is procrastination day WEAKLING [4d?\]: this looks difficult for black Speedshin [1k\]: trollific... sounds nasty in german...-_- SuperJohn [1k\]: be happy hollywood [4k\]: euro can you paste the broadcasting webpage? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: j12 ] ;B[ih] ;W[lh] ;B[ii]C[WEAKLING [4d?\]: how did you know!! ] ;W[hj]C[Ptitom [8k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 ] ;B[gr] ;W[li]C[TPA [-\]: why on the webiste does it say that its supposed to be artem playing? RosaLux [2k\]: nice call, EuroGo hollywood [4k\]: thanks ptitom EuroGoTV1 [-\]: thx KoReNJe [3d\]: w became pro when he was only 12 y old Chameau20 [11k\]: like many new professionnals no ? Eschaton: he is an hikaru WEAKLING [4d?\]: white kill this group, game over missyou [6d\]: w is the world champion RosaLux [2k\]: there s a nice commented game of w and Coi Cheolhan LastAngel [11k\]: how old now? ] ;B[hh]C[Arkienkeli [5k\]: b33 RosaLux [2k\]: Choi* Arkienkeli [5k\]: 33 Javaness [2d\]: how can kill? PQnelson [-\]: so common WEAKLING [4d?\]: thats why we watch, no? PQnelson [-\]: that move holynec [?\]: someone is gonna die holynec [?\]: ;\] ] ;W[fj] ;B[fq]C[miroko [11k\]: d13 ? miao [6d\]: i think noone willdie Fredda [-\]: uperright will :) LastAngel [11k\]: luki grats zu 6d ^ _ ^ TPA [-\]: r17? Bruno [1d\]: except g 3 ] ;W[dg]C[Bruno [1d\]: k 10 looks interesting for b Javaness [2d\]: K10 seems sharp EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 Chameau20 [11k\]: black has already a lot of territory, do you think is he ahead ? ] ;B[eg] ;W[qc]C[SuperJohn [1k\]: k10 -> m9 ? MoeTheDoom [6k\]: good move clumsy [4k\]: l9 for black realDeal [7k\]: what Xihe Luo background? danigabi [5d\]: wow Bruno [1d\]: o 5 and around is weak if b make preassure at k 10 =) Bruno [1d\]: I guess ] ;B[cg] ;W[bg]C[SuperJohn [1k\]: but w seems alive on the left igoweiki [3k\]: la estan repasando? Ildefonse [3k\]: small pts in gote? igoweiki [3k\]: la estan repasando? measwel [-\]: Guys, I am hungry. What should I do? Should I make spaghetti or make more yogurt ? Feelss [17k\]: creo que es online igoweiki [3k\]: ok gracias feelss PQnelson [-\]: italy rocks dude Javaness [2d\]: spaghetti of course Chrille [2k\]: why not both Woodstock [-\]: black already lost :( Polakken [9k?\]: yoghurt always realDeal [7k\]: mere yogurt realDeal [7k\]: is mere Fanaticism [7k\]: black only 5 minutes left? elvard [3k\]: yogurt with spaghetti Woodstock [-\]: might as well resign SuperJohn [1k\]: and some aneth EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 465 viewers Arkienkeli [5k\]: yoghurt makes me vomit olly [2k\]: w+60 ? Bruno [1d\]: wine only yanopel [4d\]: .... measwel [-\]: Its a hard choice and you're making fun of me... ] ;B[ld] ;W[le]C[OttosMops [1k\]: toss a coin ] ;B[lf] ;W[kf] ;B[ec]C[danigabi [5d\]: very interesting game Woodstock [-\]: W+20ish realDeal [7k\]: whats that blitz?> measwel [-\]: a coin is unscientific degraeve [10k\]: re Bruno [1d\]: ugly unuseful ko Yurial [2d?\]: spaghetti - cancel out the base Yurial [2d?\]: err alkaline Bayle [7k\]: any guesses why black wanted ko there? ] ;W[eb]C[gorga [1d\]: to live ] ;B[ke]C[Asaliuru [7k\]: b will win danigabi [5d\]: i dont know danigabi [5d\]: p8 area very undefined Woodstock [-\]: he has to do _something_ ] ;W[jp] ;B[iq] ;W[kf] ;B[lj]C[Woodstock [-\]: only alternative to ko is to live in white's moyo on the right Woodstock [-\]: but i think that's impossible by now measwel [-\]: n15 l15 o16 any good ? WEAKLING [4d?\]: attach at r13, o h yeah ] ;W[mj] ;B[ke]C[Bruno [1d\]: 3 fronts of batlle Bruno [1d\]: that is hard ] ;W[gj] ;B[fp]C[Sarin [?\]: do you guys perhaps know who is playing here? ] ;W[kf] ;B[fb]C[PQnelson [-\]: X.L. pretty much won didnt he? OttosMops [1k\]: xihe luo vs ondrej silt kejitsuu [16k\]: the names are there michiko123 [7k\]: l15 Sarin [?\]: thanks kit91ka [7k?\]: b can't save his stones with n15 o16 moves? Psychee [1d\]: what is f18 trying to do? CptHook [7k\]: i would play r13, q13 and r9 as b ] ;W[hc]C[Dogen [5k\]: threatens G18? ] ;B[ke] ;W[me]C[elvard [3k\]: will whites upper left corner realDeal [7k\]: XL?? he looks rather like XXXL :) ] ;B[jd]C[elvard [3k\]: kill* ] ;W[kf] ;B[gb] ;W[hb]C[blue [9k\]: b is desperate ? ] ;B[ke] ;W[kc]C[Bruno [1d\]: k 10k17 Bruno [1d\]: k 17 rytm [?\]: g16 chewbaccca [7k\]: yes Dogen [5k\]: G17 Uberdude [3d?\]: w was happy to play h17 Dogen [5k\]: but there's nothing more to do there ] ;B[lk] ;W[mk] ;B[ll]C[Lacrimosa [2d?\]: this is somewhat disturbing Uberdude [3d?\]: r7 /r8 huge MoeTheDoom [6k\]: k10 chewbaccca [7k\]: k10 ? ] ;W[mm] ;B[kn]C[csgo [?\]: r7? Asaliuru [7k\]: sad game Uberdude [3d?\]: k10 yose ] ;W[qo]C[Dogen [5k\]: why sad? W is a 9p Dogen [5k\]: geez Uberdude [3d?\]: r7r8 bigger i feel chewbaccca [7k\]: but w dead if not kryft [1k\]: Luo Xihe agrees with Uberdude. zhou901108 [1d\]: b's stones look very concentrated ] ;B[dh] ;W[ch]C[Woodstock [-\]: well, we are in yose since R17 Uberdude [3d?\]: chewbaccca, sure, stones can die in yose ] ;B[qn]C[Uberdude [3d?\]: k10 ~20 points chewbaccca [7k\]: and 20 points is not big ? Uberdude [3d?\]: correct Asaliuru [7k\]: gote metta [2d\]: not now Dogen [5k\]: it's not enough cloud [2d\]: b should resign? ] ;W[po]C[Bruno [1d\]: now b have stomach ache and bad breath Uberdude [3d?\]: not with r8 area unsettled chrpa [1d\]: first needs to save q3 group ] ;B[oo] ;W[on]C[Uberdude [3d?\]: r8 area is double sente Perkele [2d?\]: s4? CptHook [7k\]: che h7 is dead ] ;B[op]C[wojtek85 [1d\]: 9p wtf? Dogen [5k\]: H7 is not dead MoeTheDoom [6k\]: =) chewbaccca [7k\]: h7 is alive CayoHueso [5k\]: h7 alive CptHook [7k\]: hm, sorry Lacrimosa [2d?\]: luo xihe isn't just any 9p CptHook [7k\]: k10 correct ] ;W[ro] ;B[rn] ;W[rq]C[trebleclef [1k\]: luoxi he is famous in china Psychee [1d\]: which 9p is just any 9p? Uberdude [3d?\]: i think i saw luo xihe beat lee sedol when i was in china ] ;B[rl]C[blurry [6k\]: kamehame haa chrpa [1d\]: cool rstt2 [4k\]: o this is gna b a headache dchyang [?\]: hmmmm measwel [-\]: I must admit that soya joghurt is better than I thought Lacrimosa [2d?\]: there are a lot of 9ps i've never heard of ] ;W[qr]C[wojtek85 [1d\]: nice tournament :-) swift [21k?\]: b might loss sente at corner.. and then loss a chance to cut at K10..? elvard [3k\]: hmm, why didn't white sacrifice stones to secure moyo in sente? ] ;B[qj] ;W[ri]C[Uberdude [3d?\]: yes swift chrpa [1d\]: that looks good for black Woodstock [-\]: holy furikawari Uberdude [3d?\]: that is w's plan Blitzyn [3d\]: probablly because white needs tp kill this grp to win chrpa [1d\]: if black lives Perkele [2d?\]: end is near ] ;B[pr]C[wrongkyu [2k\]: b dead chewbaccca [7k\]: s4 zhou901108 [1d\]: t2 chewbaccca [7k\]: for live no ? swift [21k?\]: well, that's wise for w, coz w get corner( or outside corner, up to b choice) and still get K9 group alive ] ;W[so]C[swift [21k?\]: suppose w plan success, though Uberdude [3d?\]: if b didn't fight so hard w just planned to get r8 aea bigger in sente Bruno [1d\]: jesus Uberdude [3d?\]: and then afterwards k10 EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 ] ;B[sn]C[Dogen [5k\]: if W plays O4, can B connect on the bottom with N1? does that work? Bruno [1d\]: r 3 is a must Woodstock [-\]: well, black had to take that offer ] ;W[qq]C[Bruno [1d\]: damn Bruno [1d\]: late ] ;B[rj]C[Woodstock [-\]: or else he'd have lost for sure swift [21k?\]: well.. when w play R 5.. it's not only "bigger" area i think ] ;W[mq]C[Bruno [1d\]: this group is dead ] ;B[om] ;W[nn] ;B[qh]C[Uberdude [3d?\]: quite a big trade! cloud [2d\]: is b under time pressure? dchyang [?\]: t2?who gained more? ] ;W[rh]C[cloud [2d\]: why playing so fast ] ;B[qg]C[elvard [3k\]: I don't understande white.. chrpa [1d\]: black Dogen [5k\]: even if B lives, it looks like he hasn't gotten the better of this exchange Farouche [3d\]: As I said, Luo Xihe's wants to make it interesting imo ] ;W[qi] ;B[pi] ;W[rg]C[Bruno [1d\]: that is why he is leading ] ;B[pf]C[wrongkyu [2k\]: if b alive w resign? swift [21k?\]: agree with Farouche Psychee [1d\]: because they have only 20 minutes each ] ;W[pj]C[Bruno [1d\]: bloody mistake blurry [6k\]: res Betka [5k\]: is that absolute time? MoeTheDoom [6k\]: q9 ] ;B[rf]C[Greystone [3k\]: b try to much? ] ;W[qe]C[olly [2k\]: w is too strong... ] ;B[re]C[swift [21k?\]: b is going to die the whole group??? Uberdude [3d?\]: w is storng like pig ] ;W[qd]C[dchyang [?\]: b lost Naysmith [4d?\]: but black is doing fine, considering white's strength ] ;B[oi]C[chewbaccca [7k\]: looooooool realDeal [7k\]: LOL THIS PRO IS VERY BOARD LastAngel [11k\]: i heard w = 9p realDeal [7k\]: BORED Uberdude [3d?\]: i heard w likes chess swift [21k?\]: yep dchyang [?\]: s 16 mascaron [5k\]: yay for capitals swift [21k?\]: b did quite a game here Madel [2k\]: r9 Blitzyn [3d\]: s-9 Bruno [1d\]: resigned Blitzyn [3d\]: r-9 wojtek85 [1d\]: No he is not :P ] ;W[rd] ;B[si]C[michiko123 [7k\]: r9 ] ;W[se]C[blurry [6k\]: he's thinking about the drive home LastAngel [11k\]: 9p pregnant? ] ;B[pk] ;W[oj]C[Naysmith [4d?\]: drive from romania to eastern asia? quite a drive... Blitzyn [3d\]: will black lives side Blitzyn [3d\]: well Chameau20 [11k\]: he will wrongkyu [2k\]: gote? wrongkyu [2k\]: xD Dogen [5k\]: he lives, but at great cost Unstable [7k\]: yea soon enough you will get a brother Polakken [9k?\]: no, he is just born XL swift [21k?\]: 9p = pro? GOBRETT [2d\]: gote -.- danigabi [5d\]: seems b can save q11 but s6 dies swift [21k?\]: i mean, P = pro? Ildefonse [3k\]: 9p = pig Yurial [2d?\]: j`0 MoeTheDoom [6k\]: =)) Yurial [2d?\]: err k10 ledlamp: p=punisher wojtek85 [1d\]: poor ondrej Bruno [1d\]: 9 pro anti roockie ] ;B[ok]C[daladim [1d\]: p is pro yooooope ] ;W[nj] ;B[ol]C[Naysmith [4d?\]: ondrej strong danigabi [5d\]: i would have played the exchange ithink ] ;W[jj]C[danigabi [5d\]: this gote sucks Dino9 [6d\]: i woudl play r9 dchyang [?\]: k10 Bruno [1d\]: n 8 swift [21k?\]: yeah.. w gets what he want here MoeTheDoom [6k\]: n8 danigabi [5d\]: im not surprised about that dino danigabi [5d\]: :) chrpa [1d\]: n11 danigabi [5d\]: but if u can avoid it, better not to play it chewbaccca [7k\]: game isfinsh realDeal [7k\]: fattie wonders, why this poor romanian didnt stick with car thift, as rest of his clasmates EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 elvard [3k\]: n8 looks more interesting than k10 clumsy [4k\]: n13 Yanwangye [3k\]: n8 nothing Chrille [2k\]: n8 doesnt work Bruno [1d\]: n 13! RosaLux [2k\]: i can`t believe in such a difference in strength EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 527 viewers Merlinor [?\]: b making strange things sometimes ... Bruno [1d\]: everyone sleeping wrongkyu [2k\]: that sente? realDeal [7k\]: Rosa, try to play a 18k, you will believe csgo [?\]: n11 work? SuperJohn [1k\]: it's because today is procrastination day Dino9 [6d\]: n13 Bruno [1d\]: n 13! alexanderp [?\]: what was the handicap? Ildefonse [3k\]: 3 Bruno [1d\]: n 8 measwel [-\]: procreation day ? CptHook [7k\]: n13 daladim [1d\]: 3 stones alexanderp [?\]: thanks Dino9 [6d\]: n8 n12 measwel [-\]: Sounds like a good day ! ] ;B[jc]C[Woodstock [-\]: options -> rules ] ;W[kf]C[wojtek85 [1d\]: Ondrej too weak :(( ] ;B[bi]C[realDeal [7k\]: you are joking me!!!!! 3 handi stones?!! Ildefonse [3k\]: yes ] ;W[bh]C[daladim [1d\]: crazy isnt it ] ;B[ke]C[minimoy [10k\]: E9 create an eye? Kisame361 [9k\]: this game looks morbid for B Cato [3k\]: yes we all lie to you danigabi [5d\]: ondrej 6d egf i guess? gorga [1d\]: y Mikinek [6k\]: jj realDeal [7k\]: no one is so strong no body daladim [1d\]: yes ] ;W[gc]C[danigabi [5d\]: that makes me feel better, i also play 9ps with 3h wojtek85 [1d\]: yup gorga [1d\]: 22nd in europe Naysmith [4d?\]: yes gabriel Farouche [3d\]: I think too many underestimate the fact that Luo Xihe is a top professionnal realDeal [7k\]: 6d egf is would be high 9d kgs wojtek85 [1d\]: one of the strongest in Europe ] ;B[lc] ;W[kf]C[danigabi [5d\]: lol realDeal ] ;B[db]C[Naysmith [4d?\]: realDeal, not really ] ;W[da]C[dchyang [?\]: b has no chance in this ko Naysmith [4d?\]: roln is 7d egf ] ;B[ke]C[Cato [3k\]: Europe is weak, we have no 9d ;) Uberdude [3d?\]: about 7d-8d kgs Naysmith [4d?\]: and 8d kgs Bruno [1d\]: blooody mess chrpa [1d\]: ranking discussion again and again ] ;W[kb] ;B[lb] ;W[kf]C[Yurial [2d?\]: lololol gorga [1d\]: silt has a kgs account but i can't remember what it's called danigabi [5d\]: we need a website danigabi [5d\]: www.rankdiscussion.com SuperJohn [1k\]: eric dai lives in europe myongstu [4d\]: he was agassi GOBRETT [2d\]: cato but 3p :D danigabi [5d\]: a blank page with a shoutbox ] ;B[ml]C[Chameau20 [11k\]: WE have some professionnals, there are not strong as 8 dan ? ] ;W[mg]C[Bruno [1d\]: i am looking for a teacher Uberdude [3d?\]: owned Farouche [3d\]: pwned wojtek85 [1d\]: KVschool or sth like that EuroGoTV1 [-\]: too fast Bruno [1d\]: any strong player? Blitzyn [3d\]: also totally depends onw hich coutnry the pro is from Cato [3k\]: who got pwned? Farouche [3d\]: B danigabi [5d\]: i give lessons Bruno :) can i recommend myself? Bruno [1d\]: n 13 was first! Chrille [2k\]: you lost track? chrpa [1d\]: l10 Kisame361 [9k\]: im taking lessons from svetlana shikshiona 3p Kisame361 [9k\]: shes pretty reasonable as far as price goes Cato [3k\]: EGF doesnt go up to 9d afaik GOBRETT [2d\]: 9d not a real rank blurry [6k\]: wah huppind Betka [5k\]: is it then any use for 9k to take lessons from a pro? GOBRETT [2d\]: .... Cato [3k\]: sure Uberdude [3d?\]: gimme control i will play mocves CptHook [7k\]: undo elvard [3k\]: sure Kisame361 [9k\]: it is very helpful Uberdude [3d?\]: o4 n4 n5 m5 m4 n6 o2 n2 RosaLux [2k\]: and expensive ] ;B[nr]C[Warlord [1k?\]: EGF 6d max for everyone, 7d to be gained from tournament ] ;W[mr]C[vaporu [6d\]: byo-yomi for Silt ] ;B[np]C[Kisame361 [9k\]: yes but like i said svetlana is very reasonably priced ] ;W[mp] ;B[mo] ;W[lo] ;B[lp] ;W[mn] ;B[ms]C[CptHook [7k\]: over swift [21k?\]: ?? Naysmith [4d?\]: ummm... I know of some 7ds EGF measwel [-\]: that didnt come out right ... :) Cato [3k\]: so 7d is a title like 10d? swift [21k?\]: P4group still have a chance?? wrongkyu [2k\]: aji GOBRETT [2d\]: no 7fd no title GOBRETT [2d\]: 7d* Chameau20 [11k\]: P2 kill, isn't it ? Blitzyn [3d\]: I think if u want to play really strong players, you need to go to Tygem measwel [-\]: p2 ko Perkele [2d?\]: p2 ko Blitzyn [3d\]: where most of the Asians play Perkele [2d?\]: m1 i think wrongkyu [2k\]: m1 p1 wrongkyu [2k\]: same Uberdude [3d?\]: m2 Cato [3k\]: but tygem is windows only GDragon [3d\]: p1 jysteel [1d\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 Uberdude [3d?\]: q1 jysteel [1d\]: live video Cruciatus [2k\]: w p1 first Dino9 [6d\]: what if m2? skr [3k\]: p2 dchyang [?\]: m2? ] ;W[os]C[Michi86 [10k\]: EuroGoTV, did artem play today? wrongkyu [2k\]: lol EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no realDeal [7k\]: this 9p is not that strong even SE can kill him all over the place EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol Yurial [2d?\]: lololol Naysmith [4d?\]: :) swift [21k?\]: lol huhulan [5d\]: haha Mikinek [6k\]: idiot swift [21k?\]: B+54.5 LOL Chameau20 [11k\]: Do you know what does mean his name ? Naysmith [4d?\]: and se can't even kill one-eyed group... MoeTheDoom [6k\]: m2 ? Naysmith [4d?\]: (seen this myself) swift [21k?\]: Luo = surname? jysteel [1d\]: shoot, this 9p get world champion before CptHook [7k\]: q1 ] ;B[or]C[Uberdude [3d?\]: w + 50 ] ;W[ls]C[Uberdude [3d?\]: crazy for 3h danigabi [5d\]: losing at 3h requires some collaboration swift [21k?\]: Xi = maybe "west" he = maybe "Lake" or "River" Blitzyn [3d\]: black loses by 1 liberty Cruciatus [2k\]: r1 against o1 Bruno [1d\]: one liberty behind miao [6d\]: h10 was the loser ggfdahjk: m6 danigabi [5d\]: but white is winning wrongkyu [2k\]: new kgs 6d danigabi [5d\]: miao 6d1 Naysmith [4d?\]: wow, miao got 6d Madel [2k\]: m2 Naysmith [4d?\]: congrats :) Chameau20 [11k\]: M2 ? ] ;B[ps] ;W[qp]C[Cruciatus [2k\]: r1 CptHook [7k\]: q1 was the right move instead of p2 wrongkyu [2k\]: my move but this can't work Rakuen [7d\]: hey miao :) ] ;B[lr]C[Rakuen [7d\]: i have a new rank too XD ] ;W[ns] ;B[ms] ;W[ns] ;B[ks] ;W[qs]C[ggfdahjk: b read wrong ] ;B[ms]C[miao [6d\]: thx ] ;W[mo]C[Rakuen [7d\]: aw.. Ildefonse [3k\]: hah blue [9k\]: xD Rainletter [7k\]: ace Rakuen [7d\]: looked like seki but its not alexanderp [?\]: :) EuroGoTV1 [-\]: W+R dchyang [?\]: haha blurry [6k\]: smack down Cruciatus [2k\]: ja blue [9k\]: dead beerslayer [-\]: lol Polakken [9k?\]: haha GOBRETT [2d\]: lol Psychee [1d\]: o.O michiko123 [7k\]: yeah dead michiko123 [7k\]: lol ganuong [4d\]: resign MoeTheDoom [6k\]: p1 yersinia [1d?\]: White so strong o_o blurry [6k\]: thrown in brilliant tarek [11k\]: wow Cruciatus [2k\]: a pro lesson uzmest [1k\]: so strong OttosMops [1k\]: still, well done ondrej Elena [13k\]: this white was ... blurry [6k\]: was it o1? alexanderp [?\]: p1 не работает blurry [6k\]: p1 Uberdude [3d?\]: what language are they speaking? swift [21k?\]: well... at least b got sente alexanderp [?\]: Moe, p1, p3, o1, m1 wrongkyu [2k\]: they smile OttosMops [1k\]: p1 nothing Psychee [1d\]: are they doing review now? dchyang [?\]: 9p is a 9p blurry [6k\]: for noob is great MoeTheDoom [6k\]: точно Ildefonse [3k\]: sente to do what Ildefonse [3k\]: resign? swift [21k?\]: i did say "at least" Reym [2d?\]: yes Alife361 [?\]: they are discussing... chrpa [1d\]: japanese wrongkyu [2k\]: Ondrej say "you lucky" Chameau20 [11k\]: M1 is sente ? lol Eschaton: resign already realDeal [7k\]: XL saying, thank you master for letting me win :) Kisame361 [9k\]: if he plays m1 w plays p3 Stoneflow [4k?\]: maybe inseong with 3h would have been better game wrongkyu [2k\]: that was great game Chameau20 [11k\]: I know but it is sente blue [9k\]: was nice game Warlord [1k?\]: maybe not ])