(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[10/300 Canadian]
GN[Shusaku Cup 2010 board 2 round 5]PW[ONDREJ SILT]PB[TARANU CATALIN]WR[6d]BR[5p]DT[2010-03-28]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
;B[pq]
;W[dq]
;B[qe]
;W[dd]
;B[po]
;W[od]
;B[pc]C[Syptryn [2d\]: ooh, canceding a lot of terriroty to black already
Syptryn [2d\]: influence better be worth it
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;W[oc]
;B[pd]
;W[oe]
;B[pf]C[Syptryn [2d\]: eh, normall Q-18 better than Q-16?
]
;W[kd]
;B[do]C[Kachnak [1d\]: I'm sure this game gonna be worth of getting up this early :)
IlanKeshet [5k\]: who won in the catalin vs pop match?
IlanKeshet [5k\]: i missed the end
Kachnak [1d\]: catalin
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: catalin won
IlanKeshet [5k\]: how many pts?
Kachnak [1d\]: +res
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;W[co]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: ondrej spent 5 min and catalin 3
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;B[cn]
;W[cp]C[IlanKeshet [5k\]: can i get the cam link?
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;B[fc]
;W[hc]
;B[df]
;W[ec]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: check eurogotv1 or eurogotv2 info
IlanKeshet [5k\]: i still think the sitting / table looks uncomfortable... .. if the chairs were a bit lower probably would be better
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: probably
IlanKeshet [5k\]: does kgs pay for these broadcasts? Or are you doing it out of kindness? :p
Syptryn [2d\]: f16 o
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;B[fd]
;W[ee]C[Shadowrun [5k\]: w did resign already?
]
;B[hd]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: probably not too comfortable to bend over the table for about 2 hours...
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: non, kgs doesn't pay for this as far as i know
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: and i doing this while waiting for my opponent to arrive
Shadowrun [5k\]: i think both sides profit from it - not only kgs
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: (difficult party night last night)
IlanKeshet [5k\]: haha
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV2
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: but one of the organizers will come and replace me, so no worries, you can see the game until the end
IlanKeshet [5k\]: :)
iTengen [3k\]: who is w?
IlanKeshet [5k\]: Ondrej looks soooo uncomfortable in that chair
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: concentrated, you mean? ;)
IlanKeshet [5k\]: nope :p
manakem10 [6k\]: its not the chair - the table is too small
IlanKeshet [5k\]: are all tose players in the background playing for the same tournament? 
Shadowrun [5k\]: j17
IlanKeshet [5k\]: or different sections
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;W[id]C[Shadowrun [5k\]: j17 for b now ends in w sente
Shadowrun [5k\]: so w is fine
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: yes, the same tournament :)
Shadowrun [5k\]: to play on the left side i think
IlanKeshet [5k\]: h15 only move
Shadowrun [5k\]: j17 better
IlanKeshet [5k\]: j17 for black?
IlanKeshet [5k\]: why do you think it is better?
CircleEnd [2k\]: j17 just gets captured, eh?
Shadowrun [5k\]: but any move is gote somehow because left side seems more urgent
IlanKeshet [5k\]: h15 seems the best shape
Shadowrun [5k\]: d10 is burning
IlanKeshet [5k\]: and still a j17 weakness behind
Syptryn [2d\]: J17 doesn't seem to make that good of a sabbaki
Syptryn [2d\]: j17 k17 j18 h18 j15 k16 g15  I guess
Shadowrun [5k\]: i would play d10 as b now
IlanKeshet [5k\]: d10?
IlanKeshet [5k\]: can't tenuki
Syptryn [2d\]: j15 ?
IlanKeshet [5k\]: tenuki now is sucidal
Shadowrun [5k\]: tenuki twice
Shadowrun [5k\]: d10 + k4
Syptryn [2d\]: j15 j17 g15 
Shadowrun [5k\]: and still some aji
IlanKeshet [5k\]: maybe
Shadowrun [5k\]: only 3 stones
IlanKeshet [5k\]: thing is black just played there
Shadowrun [5k\]: yes leave it for now
CircleEnd [2k\]: yes, I agree with IIan
CircleEnd [2k\]: why play any of this if you just give it up?
Shadowrun [5k\]: w needs at least 2 moves to capture them
IlanKeshet [5k\]: see...
IlanKeshet [5k\]: if u just always play stones then tenuki
Shadowrun [5k\]: you do not give it up
IlanKeshet [5k\]: and keep giving them up
IlanKeshet [5k\]: i dunno im no dan here. I can't say
IlanKeshet [5k\]: if u tenuki and let w play h15.. seems that all aji is gone
IlanKeshet [5k\]: and w has massive moyo
Shadowrun [5k\]: killing these 3 stones is like no points
CircleEnd [2k\]: it's more than the three stones
IlanKeshet [5k\]: no points? u sure about that
IlanKeshet [5k\]: top left corner is not guarenteed to be alive yet
Shadowrun [5k\]: k4 + d10 is too much to lose for w
IlanKeshet [5k\]: d10 isn't that big
Shadowrun [5k\]: and after the exchange d10 for k4 keep on playing on top
IlanKeshet [5k\]: infact d10 doesn't look that good since the bottom left joseki is not even finished
Shadowrun [5k\]: yeah that´s a problem
Shadowrun [5k\]: d6 hurts b
IlanKeshet [5k\]: e16 played
Shadowrun [5k\]: but playing d6 himself is too slow top is more urgent than d6 i feel
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;B[ed]
;W[de]
;B[dc]
;W[cc]
;B[eb]C[Syptryn [2d\]: what da
IlanKeshet [5k\]: uh.
IlanKeshet [5k\]: that seems ok for black
IlanKeshet [5k\]: quite good
Syptryn [2d\]: E14
brooks [1k\]: i love shadowrun!!!
Shadowrun [5k\]: it would be nice if catalin would review his own game on youtube 
squeeze [1k\]: black slightly better
Shadowrun [5k\]: hehe - I hope you are a girl ^^
IlanKeshet [5k\]: hard to say squeeze
brooks [1k\]: ah, me too
IlanKeshet [5k\]: w wants to end this sequence in sente
IlanKeshet [5k\]: to play d6
IlanKeshet [5k\]: however d5/c6 can easily be left as aji
Shadowrun [5k\]: you hope to be a girl as well??
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;W[cb]C[Syptryn [2d\]: c-14
Shadowrun [5k\]: b15 or c14 overplay?
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;B[ic]C[Syptryn [2d\]: c14  seems okay b15 c14  and black in trouble
Syptryn [2d\]: ehhh
Syptryn [2d\]: not sure what this is for, except to onversationtrate black
Shadowrun [5k\]: yeah b15 is broken shape
CircleEnd [2k\]: I don't see what j17 aims at
IlanKeshet [5k\]: j17 now is just leaving aji probabl
Syptryn [2d\]: k17 j18 h18 j15 k16 g15 c14 
Shadowrun [5k\]: k17 j18 tenuki
IlanKeshet [5k\]: if w responds with K17, then j15 seems painfu
Shadowrun [5k\]: h15 after that
IlanKeshet [5k\]: ive learned recently... that u should first play urgent moves before big moves
squeeze [1k\]: d6 not played yet 
Shadowrun [5k\]: k17 looks urgent somehow
IlanKeshet [5k\]: b will try to come back to d6 soon, and d14 is now in ok place
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;W[he]
;B[gd]
;W[jc]
;B[ib]C[Warfreak2 [5d\]: catalin taranu is super strong
Shadowrun [5k\]: d6 or k4 or d10
IlanKeshet [5k\]: what are freaks thoughts about position
Shadowrun [5k\]: hey wf comment on the game and help us noobs ^^
Warfreak2 [5d\]: i like b
fatihsulak [-\]: h18 nice cash 
Shadowrun [5k\]: what move for w is best now d6 d10 k4 ?
IlanKeshet [5k\]: w can't tenuki.
Warfreak2 [5d\]: d6 seems not an excellent direction for w
Warfreak2 [5d\]: left side is most interesting
Shadowrun [5k\]: so d10 bigger than k4?
Warfreak2 [5d\]: i like d9, but top must be settled first
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;W[ie]
;B[hb]C[Warfreak2 [5d\]: j15 good
Warfreak2 [5d\]: k4 will not be so useful for w
elfking [4k\]: Catalin became 5p in 2001 ... I wonder why he hasn't gone up since? 
fatihsulak [-\]: white choose to attack 
Warfreak2 [5d\]: bottom side has a good extension for b but not for w
Warfreak2 [5d\]: there is more at stake on left side imo
yoyoma [1d\]: elfking:  He left Japan and returned to Romania
Warfreak2 [5d\]: j15 seems to agree with me
Shadowrun [5k\]: since a good move for the opponent is a good move for me - so that he cannot play there?
IlanKeshet [5k\]: its nice when you are happy warfreak
Warfreak2 [5d\]: i am always happy
IlanKeshet [5k\]: ah. sorry
elfking [4k\]: Ah 
Syptryn [2d\]: D-10
IlanKeshet [5k\]: how about c7 here
IlanKeshet [5k\]: ?
Warfreak2 [5d\]: c7 is not a move
IlanKeshet [5k\]: sure it is... a1 is a move too
Shadowrun [5k\]: yeah i agree with wf 
Shadowrun [5k\]: around a star point is the next move
Warfreak2 [5d\]: if w doesn't play something like d9 now, i have no idea what his plan is
Shadowrun [5k\]: maybe c10
LeT63 [2d\]: Catalin again in the jacket- is there so cold?
Shadowrun [5k\]: b plays b10 next
CircleEnd [2k\]: I prefer d10 to c10
CircleEnd [2k\]: personally
IlanKeshet [5k\]: c14 played
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;W[cf]C[leachy [6k\]: c7 d7 c8 d8 etc not as good as pincer around d10 or thereabouts as it just helps black's group to settle a bit
Warfreak2 [5d\]: hm
Kachnak [1d\]: looks slow right?
brooks [1k\]: i like it with the hole right next to it
brooks [1k\]: at f14/15
IlanKeshet [5k\]: d6 and f3 played
leachy [6k\]: b should just c11 now
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;B[dn]
;W[fq]
;B[cg]C[Shadowrun [5k\]: now it looks hard for w
Shadowrun [5k\]: already
IlanKeshet [5k\]: c13 just saying "lets start a fight"
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;W[bf]
;B[cj]C[Warfreak2 [5d\]: contact move is not a fight
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;W[qm]C[Warfreak2 [5d\]: just wants to get a good exchange
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;B[qk]
;W[om]
;B[ok]C[elfking [4k\]: i love the way caitalin plays... his moves are very easy to understand
leachy [6k\]: b got great result on left thanks to c14
fatihsulak [-\]: c14 is good but not consistent with j15 
leachy [6k\]: it gave b easy time of it on left side when w d10 or thereabouts seemed severe
]
;W[mm]C[IlanKeshet [5k\]: doesn't seem n7 - R7 will be able to be used to attack anythin g
IlanKeshet [5k\]: seems just running into center with no points
IlanKeshet [5k\]: m3 played
elfking [4k\]: wow
elfking [4k\]: how will black respond
IlanKeshet [5k\]: b played m3
IlanKeshet [5k\]: u mean how will w respond
elfking [4k\]: oh i can only see n7 ^^
]
;B[lq]C[elfking [4k\]: ah how will white respond! :P hehe
IlanKeshet [5k\]: haha
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;W[qp]C[elfking [4k\]: probey probe
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;B[qo]C[elfking [4k\]: white tickles black's underbelly with r4
IlanKeshet [5k\]: wow @r5
Shadowrun [5k\]: p4
elfking [4k\]: black smacks white's hand with r5 ... 
IlanKeshet [5k\]: S5, Q4, S3, R3 S4 played
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;W[ro]
;B[pp]
;W[rq]
;B[qq]
;W[rp]
;B[pm]C[IlanKeshet [5k\]: wow
elfking [4k\]: cut is super cute
Shadowrun [5k\]: brute force
IlanKeshet [5k\]: doesn't black get cut back?
Shadowrun [5k\]: q6
elfking [4k\]: no black spins around and separatest n7
elfking [4k\]: which would be amazing
IlanKeshet [5k\]: but Q8
IlanKeshet [5k\]: cuts black back
Shadowrun [5k\]: q6 now
Kachnak [1d\]: q6 ->r6 
Shadowrun [5k\]: q6 q8 r6 p6 p5 
Shadowrun [5k\]: where is nonochan?
]
;W[pl]
;B[rm]C[elfking [4k\]: wow
elfking [4k\]: going after s5
Shadowrun [5k\]: w alive after r2?
elfking [4k\]: but r2 may be gote
Shadowrun [5k\]: yes but urgent
]
;W[rn]C[elfking [4k\]: i think black intends to isolate n7 with all of this
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;B[qn]
;W[pn]
;B[ql]C[elfking [4k\]: white has no threat big enough 
Shadowrun [5k\]: q7
IlanKeshet [5k\]: just fill?
IlanKeshet [5k\]: im confused
elfking [4k\]: floater 
IlanKeshet [5k\]: r2 s8 miai?
IlanKeshet [5k\]: ic
IlanKeshet [5k\]: probably bad
Shadowrun [5k\]: q7 s8 r2 
elfking [4k\]: if white fills passively then s8 followed by attack attack attack attack ^^ 
elfking [4k\]: because of r2
IlanKeshet [5k\]: ye
IlanKeshet [5k\]: thats cool
]
;W[cl]C[IlanKeshet [5k\]: that w needs to live in gote
elfking [4k\]: lol
IlanKeshet [5k\]: wooh
]
;B[dl]C[elfking [4k\]: not good
Shadowrun [5k\]: s8 now for w
elfking [4k\]: black will happily take a wall facing weakness
IlanKeshet [5k\]: w trying to build some ko threats up before starts it
]
;W[rl]
;B[pm]
;W[dk]C[elfking [4k\]: take and laugh at white
Shadowrun [5k\]: game looks hopeless somehow for w
IlanKeshet [5k\]: just connect and kill corner?
IlanKeshet [5k\]: i dunno...
Shadowrun [5k\]: r7 for b now
IlanKeshet [5k\]: left side is massive though
ronm [1d\]: the corner isn't dead if b connects
]
;B[qm]C[elfking [4k\]: hehe
]
;W[ck]
;B[fl]C[elfking [4k\]: black asking white to proove his decision
Shadowrun [5k\]: poor w
IlanKeshet [5k\]: corner still needs a gote move :p
]
;W[ek]C[ronm [1d\]: right
dragonslay [-\]: did black have a handicap? 
Shadowrun [5k\]: ronm is roln´s bro?
elfking [4k\]: no 
elfking [4k\]: i meant no to handicap ^^
elfking [4k\]: lol there is a kid standing in front of the board picking his nose
Shadowrun [5k\]: and ronm already said right - even before my question ^^
elfking [4k\]: e8 feels proper
IlanKeshet [5k\]: e8 feels heavy
dragonslay [-\]: why was the 5pro black and the 6 dan white?
dmircea [1d\]: G6 maybe
Shadowrun [5k\]: e8 only move
elfking [4k\]: because its a tourney 
IlanKeshet [5k\]: f7 feels proper
elfking [4k\]: e8 is the only proper move ... 
guerecon: because its not a handicap tournament
IlanKeshet [5k\]: f7 or f9 feels proper
elfking [4k\]: but i think black just wondering aabout continuation
Shadowrun [5k\]: if not e8 b is broken into pieces
IlanKeshet [5k\]: want to attack n7 later
elfking [4k\]: j7? 
Aliot [3k\]: F6 better
IlanKeshet [5k\]: d8 is small
IlanKeshet [5k\]: can sacrifice 1 stone instead of getting heavy
elfking [4k\]: may be even p14
elfking [4k\]: but i am not sure
IlanKeshet [5k\]: p14 very not good
elfking [4k\]: ondrej went for a break
Shadowrun [5k\]: e8 f6
IlanKeshet [5k\]: p14, w can just play r2 and live in corner
IlanKeshet [5k\]: p14 seems very small
Shadowrun [5k\]: so maybe f6 now for b
IlanKeshet [5k\]: how much corner worth?
IlanKeshet [5k\]: 22 points ?
ronm [1d\]: not that much given that a play there is double gote
elfking [4k\]: black has to somehow destablise e9
elfking [4k\]: so how to do it ? 
IlanKeshet [5k\]: r2 is a 22 point gote move
Shadowrun [5k\]: killing is always gote lol
elfking [4k\]: lol 
elfking [4k\]: no you can kill in sente if kill leads to another kill 
ronm [1d\]: not always, but definitely not always double gote
ronm [1d\]: it's like it's only 11 points to kill the corner, better to play elsewhere i think
Shadowrun [5k\]: e8 is bad due to f6
Shadowrun [5k\]: also e11 considerable
LeT63 [2d\]: 11 points?
IlanKeshet [5k\]: nah dont save e13
IlanKeshet [5k\]: thats suicide
ronm [1d\]: e11 too insolent
IlanKeshet [5k\]: leave for aji
elfking [4k\]: e11 wrong direction
IlanKeshet [5k\]: yes
IlanKeshet [5k\]: e11 suicide
Shadowrun [5k\]: e11 is to keep e9 weak
IlanKeshet [5k\]: e9 weak?
IlanKeshet [5k\]: e9 strong!!
Shadowrun [5k\]: d11?
IlanKeshet [5k\]: forget those stones
elfking [4k\]: this corner is 17 + 7 around 24 points
ronm [1d\]: cut in half for being double gote. not yet big enough i think
LeT63 [2d\]: for me also about 25
elfking [4k\]: ah
DeathWind [1k\]: where is the other opponent? break time?
elfking [4k\]: yeah 
Prym [-\]: other opponent?
elfking [4k\]: but catalin is still thinking
elfking [4k\]: ondrej left for bathroom i think 
IlanKeshet [5k\]: really hard to say what to do here
elfking [4k\]: ah he's back
Shadowrun [5k\]: i would like luo xihe to comment this game
IlanKeshet [5k\]: who is luo xihe
ronm [1d\]: 9p attending the tournament
Shadowrun [5k\]: since a lot of hard decisions to make
IlanKeshet [5k\]: F9 seems worth it to do
Shadowrun [5k\]: not only brute force reading 
ronm [1d\]: f9 insolent
elfking [4k\]: time settings are hard to see
elfking [4k\]: the thing is that Catalin is pro so he will play a good move ^^ 
IlanKeshet [5k\]: im sure he will :)
LeT63 [2d\]: kill the corner
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;B[go]C[elfking [4k\]: wow!
elfking [4k\]: nice!!!
ronm [1d\]: i thought g4 but i guess this makes more sense
Ph1xi3 [-\]: White is too settled for g4
elfking [4k\]: so elegant but so hard to see
ronm [1d\]: yeah, doesn't make a lot of sense, i just couldn't find a good move
elfking [4k\]: ronm what do you think of g5? 
]
;W[rr]
;B[fk]C[IlanKeshet [5k\]: aha
IlanKeshet [5k\]: see f9 :p
]
;W[fj]C[elfking [4k\]: yah but after g5 f9 is sensible 
elfking [4k\]: ^^
ronm [1d\]: f9 after g5 much more legit
IlanKeshet [5k\]: :p
]
;B[gj]C[elfking [4k\]: now white has to play f10 but white not thinking much ere
elfking [4k\]: *here
IlanKeshet [5k\]: that moyo is getting masssssssive
elfking [4k\]: soon a ddk move at n17 ^^
]
;W[fi]
;B[hq]C[elfking [4k\]: tada
]
;W[gi]C[horacelamb [4d?\]: looking good for the professional
IlanKeshet [5k\]: b should happily extend here
]
;B[hj]C[Fujimoto [5d\]: m9 looks nice
IlanKeshet [5k\]: was G11 / H10 really a good exchange for w? 
IlanKeshet [5k\]: Seems not..
Fujimoto [5d\]: but is w leading on cash?..
JEGO [9k\]: so white will try to invade in k4
elfking [4k\]: no 
IlanKeshet [5k\]: k4 seems utterly impossible
Shadowrun [5k\]: k10?
elfking [4k\]: k4 is far too deep and will die a painful death 
]
;W[hp]C[JEGO [9k\]: or h4
IlanKeshet [5k\]: lol
IlanKeshet [5k\]: thats a bit different :p
JEGO [9k\]: thats the intention
Shadowrun [5k\]: g4 g3 j3 
]
;B[gp]C[iancho [2d\]: w creating aji
Fujimoto [5d\]: seems to me b is better
]
;W[gq]C[JEGO [9k\]: cutting move g4
]
;B[iq]C[ronm [1d\]: i would have also told you h4 was too insolent though. not sure what w has planned
Shadowrun [5k\]: the 5k sequence
elfking [4k\]: this just helps black settle
Fujimoto [5d\]: w mainly defended his weakness
IlanKeshet [5k\]: Shadowrun promoted to 6d
JEGO [9k\]: this is not good for white
fatogata [4d\]: I guess w can live inside here
Fujimoto [5d\]: he made b stronger on the way
Shadowrun [5k\]: w wants to make aji to try to live inside - otherwise the game is over
elfking [4k\]: lol white can't live in here
elfking [4k\]: white would be goofy to try 
IlanKeshet [5k\]: G11, and this exchange was all really bad exchange
Shadowrun [5k\]: L9
JEGO [9k\]: l9 necessary for white now
iancho [2d\]: and eliminating b'a aji at e2
JEGO [9k\]: the game is engaged
fatogata [4d\]: I would be optimistic to live ni this
Fujimoto [5d\]: lol?.. it's quite wide and w already has several stones inside
LeT63 [2d\]: of course w will try to make life
Fujimoto [5d\]: I bet even Taranu doesn't think he can kill
]
;W[nk]C[esidebob [-\]: b doesnt need to kill everything here to win
Shadowrun [5k\]: only way to keep playing is to try to live, right?
JEGO [9k\]: l9 or l10 to escape or o9
IlanKeshet [5k\]: Or 9k to live
IlanKeshet [5k\]: sorry... I ment k9
Shadowrun [5k\]: so live and run out is some sort of miai now
IlanKeshet [5k\]: :p
JEGO [9k\]: but Catalin has many cutting moves here
Shadowrun [5k\]: it is not about saving every single stone - just a few which destroy the whole moyo
JEGO [9k\]: O10 black seems good?
Shadowrun [5k\]: Jego are you a relative to LEGO?
JEGO [9k\]: ooh its my name
Shadowrun [5k\]: ah k
IlanKeshet [5k\]: hmmm
IlanKeshet [5k\]: after my count black doesn't need that much to win here
IlanKeshet [5k\]: black already almost ahead from solid territory
JEGO [9k\]: yes O10 will construct huge black moyo
LeT63 [2d\]: no w can already count ab 70 pts
]
;B[mk]C[fatogata [4d\]: 70 pts is too positive
IlanKeshet [5k\]: b has more then 80 points
elfking [4k\]: if that's not eye stealing i don't know what is :P 
IlanKeshet [5k\]: from solid territory
Shadowrun [5k\]: JEGO , nice info page - I like optimistic persons ^^
JEGO [9k\]: yes if o8 catalin o10
LeT63 [2d\]: ok i counted 10 on upper side
JEGO [9k\]: thanks shadowrun
fatogata [4d\]: upper side could be easily damaged in this fight
fatogata [4d\]: I would not count any points there
LeT63 [2d\]: but b has no more than 50
JEGO [9k\]: catalin want's a larger territory i suppose or a larger threat
elfking [4k\]: stricktly speaking black only has about 35is points
elfking [4k\]: *35ish
fatogata [4d\]: 35ish is right side alone
JEGO [9k\]: the only optiion now for white is o10
IlanKeshet [5k\]: b has more then 60
elfking [4k\]: and using same counting method black has about 50
]
;W[nj]C[JEGO [9k\]: but slide monkey counts -15
]
;B[mj]C[IlanKeshet [5k\]: the bottom side already 15 points for black
IlanKeshet [5k\]: plus the right side is 30+ points
elfking [4k\]: right side is not settled yet
IlanKeshet [5k\]: top is 10 points
]
;W[lp]C[elfking [4k\]: bottom isn't quite settled either ^^
JEGO [9k\]: m4 interresting move
IlanKeshet [5k\]: bottom is solid 15 points
Shadowrun [5k\]: WANTED - Dead or Alive
elfking [4k\]: don't think catalin likes that move
IlanKeshet [5k\]: J1 -> N1 = 10 points    + F7 area at least 5 points
JEGO [9k\]: so we will see Catalin's fight here
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;B[kp]
;W[ko]C[elfking [4k\]: q10 
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;B[ni]C[IlanKeshet [5k\]: cool ladder move
Yanwangye [-\]: w looks good or?
elfking [4k\]: hane on head of two stones
LeT63 [2d\]: tenuki?
JEGO [9k\]: p10 w only move otherwise captured
IlanKeshet [5k\]: thats not true jego
]
;W[kq]
;B[jp]
;W[mp]C[elfking [4k\]: see Ilan ^^ 
IlanKeshet [5k\]: see what?
elfking [4k\]: bottom not12 points yet ^^
IlanKeshet [5k\]: sure it is.
IlanKeshet [5k\]: ... ok fine u win
]
;B[kr]
;W[mq]
;B[lr]C[elfking [4k\]: p6 
LeT63 [2d\]: it feels O11 wasnt ok
]
;W[jo]C[elfking [4k\]: wow k5 very strong
IlanKeshet [5k\]: b might just be happy to capture o10
IlanKeshet [5k\]: make lots of points of right
elfking [4k\]: m6?
MrFofi [3d\]: o6
JEGO [9k\]: O5 possible
iancho [2d\]: k7 looks like vital point
]
;B[io]C[iancho [2d\]: l7*
]
;W[km]C[JEGO [9k\]: Catalin will seek to kill white now o5
]
;B[jn]
;W[kn]C[IlanKeshet [5k\]: this position too complicated for me
elfking [4k\]: i am not sure if he is going to kill 
iancho [2d\]: o5
elfking [4k\]: or rather going "for a kill"
Shikasta [1k\]: w lives then hes well ahead?
JEGO [9k\]: simple if white cannot escape,then black kill
IlanKeshet [5k\]: thats not true jego..
IlanKeshet [5k\]: w trying live inside
JEGO [9k\]: yes but black has one move to do now
IlanKeshet [5k\]: seems hard to escape...
JEGO [9k\]: needs some 10 minutes to calculate the possibilities
IlanKeshet [5k\]: indeed ^_^
dragonslay [-\]: white dead
JEGO [9k\]: will see professional force
IlanKeshet [5k\]: sooooo manny variations..........
JEGO [9k\]: but p10 black remain a good option too
Yanwangye [-\]: who lead?
Yanwangye [-\]: b or?
dragonslay [-\]: professionals are just bigger kyu's that bully people around.
GoSpell [2k\]: but coul it be possible to leave o5 for white, it seems it would give life, no ?
JEGO [9k\]: i think natural move p10 is better
IlanKeshet [5k\]: why p10?
dragonslay [-\]: white alive or connected I think 
IlanKeshet [5k\]: u can just kill with o8
JEGO [9k\]: yes
IlanKeshet [5k\]: but point isn;t just to kill few stones... 
MrFofi [3d\]: o6
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;B[kk]
;W[in]C[elfking [4k\]: lol
]
;B[im]C[dragonslay [-\]: bad white.
LeT63 [2d\]: going for kill
JEGO [9k\]: some enclusure move
]
;W[il]C[dragonslay [-\]: m10 perfect move.
]
;B[jk]
;W[hn]C[JEGO [9k\]: white must try to live now
IlanKeshet [5k\]: .... nutty complicated position
LeT63 [2d\]: looks like all in
IlanKeshet [5k\]: yes lol
Shikasta [1k\]: h5 k7 h7 g6 h8 ?
dragonslay [-\]: l8
MrFofi [3d\]: k7
IlanKeshet [5k\]: h5 k7
]
;B[hm]C[Shikasta [1k\]: of course
IlanKeshet [5k\]: h5, g6, j4   k4 is in atari
elfking [4k\]: must give kudos to silt  ... 
dragonslay [-\]: white resign .
elfking [4k\]: he's given catalin a lot to think about
fatogata [4d\]: ilan, look for snapback
]
;W[gn]C[dragonslay [-\]: if he would have thought more game his
Shikasta [1k\]: k7
dfadf: w ahead
elfking [4k\]: f6 h5 g7 j4 j5 
dragonslay [-\]: h5 
elfking [4k\]: f6 is viable
IlanKeshet [5k\]: just h5 now
GoSpell [2k\]: e4 ?
sanrei [7k?\]: check eurogotv info for 6th round... noon swiss time anyway
Shikasta [1k\]: whats the tv ink pls?
IlanKeshet [5k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV2
Shikasta [1k\]: ty
JEGO [9k\]: h5 or k6 ? ffor black?
elfking [4k\]: f6 seems to work 
IlanKeshet [5k\]: my brain hurts just looking at the position
GoSpell [2k\]: f6 g7
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;B[jm]C[IlanKeshet [5k\]: <puzzled>
JEGO [9k\]: ok k7 chosen
IlanKeshet [5k\]: aaaaaah
]
;W[ho]C[IlanKeshet [5k\]: black sacrifces
]
;B[ip]C[IlanKeshet [5k\]: black sacrifces left part
dragonslay [-\]: llankexhet top 
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;W[fn]C[dragonslay [-\]: strong group in sente
SqueezeIt [1d\]: nice
]
;B[el]
;W[jl]
;B[hl]
;W[nl]
;B[nn]C[Kachnak [1d\]: n2 b's sente...
]
;W[mi]
;B[nh]C[JEGO [9k\]: o6 is a move for kill
]
;W[mn]
;B[no]C[IlanKeshet [5k\]: seems w just lost
]
;W[oj]
;B[pj]C[JEGO [9k\]: stuggle for white life
Shikasta [1k\]: no eyes up there
elfking [4k\]: f6 g7 f7 f5 h5 (2 branches) 1) k7 h8 g8 h9 ... b++ 
]
;W[mr]C[noluck [-\]: final will be in seong against taranu then
IlanKeshet [5k\]: however... Q3 isn't alive yet either
]
;B[or]
;W[oi]C[Farcas [4d\]: ko?
JEGO [9k\]: catalin aims is clear now
meatini [5k\]: simple game
Wormhole1: u can considder q3 alive
]
;B[og]C[meatini [5k\]: q3 long libs
noluck [-\]: resign?
Wormhole1: just to many eyes
IlanKeshet [5k\]: i think resign
IlanKeshet [5k\]: b played it so well
RyuuGan [1k\]: black is 5p :)
allonzo [5k\]: noluck... it was yesterday... seong won +0.5
Loons [5k\]: B has slain a dragon ?
Loons [5k\]: Haven't been watching
elfking [4k\]: Loons a big fat one... 
RyuuGan [1k\]: w n7 seems dead
noluck [-\]: i didn't konw sorry
volcano [1k\]: did that guy just get some gum off the floor?
GoSpell [2k\]: looking for k2 ?
]
;W[pi]
;B[qi]
;W[qh]C[JEGO [9k\]: wite +resign
]
;B[ri]C[dragonslay [-\]: plus cookies
iancho [2d\]: Players' times eurogo?
Mikki62 [1k\]: p6 no sente :(
]
;W[ol]
;B[pk]C[Syptryn [2d\]: s-12
dragonslay [-\]: resign
fatogata [4d\]: p6 is sente
brule: It would seem that breakfast's predicition is wrong.
IlanKeshet [5k\]: been an incredible game 
fatogata [4d\]: but doesnt matter
supercow [-\]: yes, it would
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: both players in byo-yomi
iancho [2d\]: thx
Mikki62 [1k\]: p6 s9
nanotech [2k\]: if w can keep centre he'll be ok
IlanKeshet [5k\]: how do they do byo yomi with that clock?
volcano [1k\]: what did he predict?
JEGO [9k\]: i don't understand how a 6D can be captured like that?
brule: EGTV2, how goes the Ilya versus Artem game?
IlanKeshet [5k\]: the 6d is playing a 5p
igaz: .
IlanKeshet [5k\]: thats how
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;W[li]C[fatogata [4d\]: p6 - s9 - then you loose
Mikki62 [1k\]: or r2
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 10 moves in 5 minutes
fatogata [4d\]: o2 sente
]
;B[kl]C[fatogata [4d\]: so you need defend
noluck [-\]: so dead
]
;W[rh]C[volcano [1k\]: does everybody play go with such poor posture?
dragonslay [-\]: to late to pick up the peices.
elfking [4k\]: r2 is sente
fujichan [3d\]: N13
]
;B[rf]
;W[on]
;B[oo]
;W[ml]
;B[kj]
;W[oh]C[IlanKeshet [5k\]: lol
IlanKeshet [5k\]: how can w really play this out..
elfking [4k\]: hoping for a mistake? 
]
;B[mg]C[iancho [2d\]: rigor mortis setting in
GoSpell [2k\]: want semeai
]
;W[ls]C[Syptryn [2d\]: eh
JEGO [9k\]: white try everything
Syptryn [2d\]: n1 better
]
;B[ks]
;W[ns]C[JEGO [9k\]: but don't work
Syptryn [2d\]: oh
fujichan [3d\]: Try to kill 
SqueezeIt [1d\]: wow
LeT63 [2d\]: now seems possible
fujichan [3d\]: it's a ko
Syptryn [2d\]: r-2 sente tho
Syptryn [2d\]: else corner die
]
;B[is]C[fujichan [3d\]: S10
Syptryn [2d\]: r=2
Syptryn [2d\]: r-2 first
Syptryn [2d\]: a must
fujichan [3d\]: for W, S0
fujichan [3d\]: R2 is a false eye
IlanKeshet [5k\]: very unpleasant game
Syptryn [2d\]: r-2 sente for black...
Syptryn [2d\]: balck can get rea eye there
Syptryn [2d\]: white should get rid of it sente now
elfking [4k\]: r2 is sente for black 
fujichan [3d\]: sente , but it's not important I think
LeT63 [2d\]: can also be seki
SqueezeIt [1d\]: very important
JEGO [9k\]: white dead
Shikasta [1k\]: s10 s9 t11 r10 r2 then s2 has to live
elfking [4k\]: q1 
fujichan [3d\]: A, yes, yes, I closed my eyes xD
elfking [4k\]: white q1
elfking [4k\]: i think 
RyuuGan [1k\]: r2 q1 s1 
fujichan [3d\]: no, so, R2 better I thinks
dragonslay [-\]: s10 t11
JEGO [9k\]: r2 white to try to capture black
]
;W[pg]C[Bubarik [1k\]: you cant capture black
Toccata [6d\]: ko
Muscadet [?\]: w r2, then b thretens to make an eye with q2
Syptryn [2d\]: r2 q2 s10 t11 s9 r10 t12 o4  black seems alive...
Bubarik [1k\]: r2 is sente, then you need to kill eyes with s10 i think
Fishtank [4k\]: bye
RyuuGan [1k\]: EuroGo :'(
GoSpell [2k\]: eurogotv escaper ?
harpo [?\]: after S10  b O4 second eye
igaz: .
elfking [4k\]: lots of observers
]
;B[of]C[TomoChan [2k\]: lol
]
;W[qr]
;B[pr]C[RyuuGan [1k\]: welcome back!
uzmest [1k\]: b alive
IlanKeshet [5k\]: RESIGN!!!
elfking [4k\]: t7
JEGO [9k\]: black is dead now
IlanKeshet [5k\]: w resigned!
IlanKeshet [5k\]: wow
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: b+ resign
lapindix [7k\]: SHUT UP !!!
Wormhole1: lol
RyuuGan [1k\]: thx
IlanKeshet [5k\]: wow...
dragonslay [-\]: white dead?...
Wormhole1: thanks eurogotv
elfking [4k\]: white dies
LeT63 [2d\]: thx Euro!
Uberdude [3d?\]: great kill catalin!
elfking [4k\]: thanks for sharing such a fun game
Farcas [4d\]: t7 s9 t8 t9 t5 t11 t12 s10 
Farcas [4d\]: 2 eys
IlanKeshet [5k\]: where is b 2nd eye?
Pische [6k\]: catalin rules
elfking [4k\]: wtg Nimue^^
Uberdude [3d?\]: n9 was inspired
dragonslay [-\]: nice game
IlanKeshet [5k\]: aha O4 is miai too
elfking [4k\]: they are discussing
meatini [5k\]: s10
dima777 [2d\]: eurogo: who won Shikshin or Artem K
Farcas [4d\]: w res
meatini [5k\]: s10 b only one eye than o3
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Shikshin won
IlanKeshet [5k\]: that was a really complicated game
IlanKeshet [5k\]: nuts
abak [1k\]: wow what a bloody game!
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