(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[60]OT[25/600 Canadian]
GN[Pandanet tour Europe Austrian Open board 1]PW[Pal Balogh]PB[Ondrej Silt]WR[7d]BR[6d]DT[2009-10-31]EV[Pandanet tour Europe Austrian Open board 1]RO[1]PC[Vienna]US[HW9x9]C[Hanne [3k\]: black will win this
Excalibor [-\]: who are playing in this board?
Excalibor [-\]: ah, cool, thank you :)
jersta [10k\]: hi euro
jersta [10k\]: is there a live stream?
BoGoss [1k\]: how comes pal is 7D?
BonoVox [3k\]: Big match!!!!
BoGoss [1k\]: And correct b's name its spelled ondrej
Excalibor [-\]: ah, cool...people is gathering and there's excellent quality video and audio this time! (compared to Shushaku Cup), eurogotv rulez :)
neko1 [11k\]: hello everyone
Lakotnik [4k\]: hello mr neko
Pig [2d?\]: Ondray?
neko1 [11k\]: ohh call me cat neko means cat in japanesse
slowbrain [-\]: hmm audio
CGBSpender [-\]: why don't you use " cat1" if you wanna be called cat ?
xYx [3k\]: Is it correct tournament go takes place in Japan? 
Lakotnik [4k\]: interesting ^^
neko1 [11k\]: my mother is japanesse but i d'ont live in japan
neko1 [11k\]: i live inafrica
Excalibor [-\]: who is Silt? the blond young man?
pebarefoot [-\]: cool, balough v silt
haratsos [4k\]: when does it start?
Isobeutel [7k\]: now
Lakotnik [4k\]: we must play a game sometime neko1 and you can tell me more :)
neko1 [11k\]: it started on the other gamas
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: is sound ok?
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;B[dc]C[Excalibor [-\]: very okay
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;W[pp]C[Excalibor [-\]: excellent, actually
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;B[cp]
;W[ep]C[michael77 [24k\]: sound?
Minghegy [1k\]: i want hear sound
Minghegy [1k\]: how to?
xlREDlx [8k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Minghegy [1k\]: thx
Excalibor [-\]: they are very young...
BoGoss [1k\]: get b's name right...
pancake [3d\]: ondray, lol
Excalibor [-\]: standard joseki, interesting
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;B[eq]
;W[fq]
;B[dq]
;W[fp]
;B[cn]
;W[jp]
;B[qd]
;W[od]C[CGBSpender [-\]: fast
pancake [3d\]: hey, since when is Pal Balogh 7d? :o
Laman [1k\]: he is not, i think :)
Excalibor [-\]: yes... but white let black take 3 corners?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Excalibor [-\]: Silt has gone for a walk :-)
slowbrain [-\]: keyboard sound
slowbrain [-\]: lol
Isobeutel [7k\]: ^^
xlREDlx [8k\]: we can hear you typing lol
xYx [3k\]: I am an observer just now in the broadcast of lives in site of eurogotv1
xlREDlx [8k\]: what are the time setting btw?
Excalibor [-\]: yes, sound and video are cool, thanks!
Excalibor [-\]: 1 hour + 10min/25 canadian
haratsos [4k\]: why i cant here?
haratsos [4k\]: what should i do?
Warfreak2 [5d\]: is viktor lin at this tournament?
xlREDlx [8k\]: ok thanks
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
Warfreak2 [5d\]: why isn't viktor on board 1
Warfreak2 [5d\]: he's so strong
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;B[md]C[Excalibor [-\]: now are both having a walk, lol
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: picture from EuroGoTV2 and 3 are probarbly better or not?
Excalibor [-\]: in the mean time, table 2 has a furious fight
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: cameras from board 2 and 3 have wide angle lenses
xYx [3k\]: Why we are viewers in him now? Opponents are not in the game 
Laman [1k\]: great, balogh returned
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: you can see Viktor Lin on the right in his Santa Claus outfit
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;W[pg]C[jersta [10k\]: i can't see the live stream >.<
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: why not?
CGBSpender [-\]: say hi to viktor :o
jersta [10k\]: i dunno first time this happen
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: anybody else having trouble seing it?
Excalibor [-\]: they are all very young... i think i have no hope of getting any good at this diabolical game :-(
CGBSpender [-\]: now i gotta watch the vid, just for viktor in santa claus..
slowbrain [-\]: see all
Kickchon [?\]: yes, i dont get my mail with the password :P
Excalibor [-\]: i can see it with excellent quality
Warfreak2 [5d\]: screenshot it for me, spender
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: look in your unwanted mail box
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;B[oe]
;W[ne]
;B[nd]
;W[pe]C[Excalibor [-\]: whoah, fast and furious fight
Warfreak2 [5d\]: not a fight really
feature [-\]: oh cool!
Excalibor [-\]: isn't it?
Fredrik [6d\]: wow so many strong players are there?
diminutive [5k\]: using hotmail?
Fredrik [6d\]: pop, in-seong?
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;B[pd]
;W[of]
;B[oc]C[Warfreak2 [5d\]: easily resolved without violence.
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: In-seong vs Jan Simara
BoGoss [1k\]: according to eidogo this result favors white...
jersta [10k\]: fixed euro
power [3k\]: EuroGoTV, who is that girl? ^^
CGBSpender [-\]: ok, warfreak, as soon as he gets closer
jersta [10k\]: mozilla probs
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;W[de]C[Hanne [3k\]: why should it favor white?
jersta [10k\]: ie it's working well 
Warfreak2 [5d\]: ponnuki, sente
Excalibor [-\]: yes, the left open corner... bad if black made a shimari there... otoh white has a 4-4... 
Fredrik [6d\]: who is pop playing?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: an Asian guy i dont know
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;B[ee]C[Fredrik [6d\]: i see
slowbrain [-\]: new shirt
fatihsulak [2d\]: c17 
Hanne [3k\]: someone's whispering in my ear
goedeljp [1k\]: e14
Excalibor [-\]: again they left the goban... is this usual in tournaments?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: for them yes^^
Excalibor [-\]: oh :)
Excalibor [-\]: what about w c17? bad fight for that?
Laman [1k\]: it is like game on some turn-based server
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;W[cc]C[fatihsulak [2d\]: d16 
Excalibor [-\]: ah, they are back :)
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;B[dd]
;W[cd]C[fatihsulak [2d\]: e14 
Excalibor [-\]: eh, c17, i'm starting to understand something about this stupidly overcomplex and diabolical game :-P
power [3k\]: c18 ?
fatihsulak [2d\]: e14 nice for influence
goedeljp [1k\]: 14
daladim [1d\]: d14 c15 c14
fatihsulak [2d\]: e14 c14 d12 imo
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: so all 3 live TV feeds are ok now? Also sound?
slowbrain [-\]: yes
Excalibor [-\]: only watching table 1...
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: great thc\\x
Isobeutel [7k\]: 5 sec delay, but ok
Excalibor [-\]: santa claus also went for a walk :-)
Warfreak2 [5d\]: ho ho ho
Excalibor [-\]: so does Pop always dress like that? cool...
Excalibor [-\]: Pop was with Catalin in Romania-1 team at Shushaku Cup,right?
CGBSpender [-\]: no warfreak, you can't sit on santa's knees
Warfreak2 [5d\]: shut up spendy
Warfreak2 [5d\]: you're projecting
CGBSpender [-\]: haha
slowbrain [-\]: e14
Excalibor [-\]: slowbrain, double hane here?
Warfreak2 [5d\]: you can't deal with these thoughts about viktor so you're saying they are my thoughts instead
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;B[ef]
;W[db]C[Lakotnik [4k\]: where's santa?
fatihsulak [2d\]: d18 surprise 
Excalibor [-\]: ah, okay, santa is Viktor, not Pop...
Excalibor [-\]: it looks like there's a lot of people playing in this tournament, cool
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;B[eb]
;W[cb]
;B[fc]
;W[me]C[fatihsulak [2d\]: black better imo 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
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;B[le]C[slowbrain [-\]: look at the clock
Isobeutel [7k\]: w seems very nervous to mee, standing up and walk aruond after every move like a tiger in a cage
Isobeutel [7k\]: as his opponent this would annoy me
Isobeutel [7k\]: ^^
Excalibor [-\]: or maybe he's doing that
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: they are very good friends
Excalibor [-\]: and getting blood on his legs as well
Isobeutel [7k\]: ah
Isobeutel [7k\]: ok
Excalibor [-\]: :-)
Excalibor [-\]: must be a way to tease each other :)
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;W[lf]
;B[kf]C[Isobeutel [7k\]: seems so...
pancake [3d\]: n15 directly at m14 would've been better imoh
Excalibor [-\]: looks like Silt is going to ear the paper fan :-)
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;W[kg]C[Isobeutel [7k\]: is the tounament place  a school?
Hanne [3k\]: maybe this push was not so good for w?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: in the Museum for Ethlonogy
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;B[lg]C[Isobeutel [7k\]: ok, thx
Enix [?\]: n15 uses the weakness of P16
Excalibor [-\]: mmm... white's probably trying to use his hoshi stones to make some moyo, but so many hanes must hurt
WhiteComet [6k\]: m16
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i think they are doing this to tease me, so that i wont be able to keep up in Byo-omiy
billy504 [6k\]: where r they?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ^^
Excalibor [-\]: lol
Lakotnik [4k\]: smoking?
slowbrain [-\]: some yes
Hanne [3k\]: euro, i hear u typing
Emperial [1d\]: hi
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ah, then i have selected the wrong microphon
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: sorry
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i cannot change it now
Excalibor [-\]: never mind
billy504 [6k\]: say hi eurogotv1
Excalibor [-\]: and hearing you sighing is fun as well :-)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: :-(
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol
Lakotnik [4k\]: amuse us etv1
billy504 [6k\]: dance
Excalibor [-\]: we'll be able to hear your hearbeats when you are about to faint in byo-yomi, a new expecience in Go broadcasting worldwide ;-)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i could stop the broadcast for 30 seconds and select the correct mic
slowbrain [-\]: o
slowbrain [-\]: no
Lakotnik [4k\]: riverdance!
Repacse [5k?\]: n14 looks like a good move to me
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;W[mf]C[ThomasEJFD [3k\]: N14 for territory or M16 for intrusion
Vogel [2k\]: where is this game played?
Repacse [5k?\]: on a goban
Lakotnik [4k\]: in a classroom
Vogel [2k\]: funny repacse
Morrostone [?\]: :-þ
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: in a former emperial palas
pebarefoot [-\]: pretty high ambient noise level
Hanne [3k\]: it's normal in europe
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: thats because the wrong mic
Lakotnik [4k\]: video frozen
Hanne [3k\]: europe is generally more noisy because population density is so higj
Isobeutel [7k\]: nice cam drive ^^
Excalibor [-\]: n14 seems reasonable, as a black ponnuki over there may mean black to get both territory on the upper side and influence towards the center, which threatening white's upper right whole group...
Repacse [5k?\]: l15 perhaps ?
pebarefoot [-\]: higly echoic room
power [3k\]: so nice place ^^
Morrostone [?\]: vienna?
Excalibor [-\]: cool... are all your cameras that big as that one??
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yep
Excalibor [-\]: i guess a string quartet in there must be a wonderful hearing... with some carpets here and there to distribute sound...
Excalibor [-\]: well, you surely do exercise in the go world!
Isobeutel [7k\]: whos that boy
Excalibor [-\]: table 3 says it's chilly...
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: true
V86 [6k\]: кто играет?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i will put on my colbert
slowbrain [-\]: yes please
Excalibor [-\]: good idea... i've been on a cold for 2 weeks now, it's extremely uncomfortable :-P
Repacse [5k?\]: and a tie please
ThomasEJFD [3k\]: noir n'est-il pas "obligé" de jouer l15 ?
Excalibor [-\]: (and i am about 2 or 3 ranks below my usual myself, to my shame in my last games :-P )
Lakotnik [4k\]: is that bum in white and black top?
Excalibor [-\]: l15 pour noir est important, oui
Jonka [5k\]: yep
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;B[ke]
;W[jg]C[Lakotnik [4k\]: tx j
Repacse [5k?\]: m12 
F00 [1d\]: r6
Excalibor [-\]: we must be grateful, cause black dresses in black, and white in white... it's easier to follow them this way :-)
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;B[lh]
;W[ji]C[F00 [1d\]: hehe :<
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;B[lj]C[Pig [2d?\]: :))
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol
wolokom [5k\]: nettes moyo geht baden
Excalibor [-\]: if black gets another extension to the center, i think he'll attack the 4-4- stone with strength
ThomasEJFD [3k\]: m12 me parait profiter à blanc plutôt non
Repacse [5k?\]: k9 
wolokom [5k\]: q 10?
Excalibor [-\]: w q10 seems nice
Excalibor [-\]: hard for black to live inside
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;W[jk]C[Repacse [5k?\]: q10 looks like the wrong direction 
ibd [7k\]: p11
pebarefoot [-\]: a lot f womwn thee
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes, and Aoki sensai 9p
pebarefoot [-\]: *women*
Excalibor [-\]: who's Aoki sensei 9p??
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i just made a close up of him
LeT63 [1d\]: was nice :-)
ThomasEJFD [3k\]: p11
dragon4896 [4k\]: eh... not bot... my mistake
Excalibor [-\]: missed it :-/
Excalibor [-\]: who's the man in orange shirt?
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;B[oi]C[Excalibor [-\]: p11... aiming for a base?
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;W[qi]C[Ukasuhs [1k\]: or he just doesnt want w getting 5th line territory
ibd [7k\]: q9
ThomasEJFD [3k\]: r10
Excalibor [-\]: mmm... still black must live inside... looks hard... how do you invade the lower right corner? it's like a think version of sanrensei
Hanne [3k\]: p11 aiming for development
dragon4896 [4k\]: i dont know which color is good now, maybe b ?
Excalibor [-\]: an attack at r6 will be pincered...
BoGoss [1k\]: q9 ?
Yaruki [8k\]: who was that euro
slowbrain [-\]: 9p
nickwild [3k\]: q10
dragon4896 [4k\]: m8 for b ?
Excalibor [-\]: i lost an otherwise quite nice game yesterday just because i wasn't able to stop white making that huge moyo... at least black's working on it, i shiuld watch and learn
slowbrain [-\]: b q9
Hoyuk [10k?\]: why is he standing up so much
ibd [7k\]: has to pee
Excalibor [-\]: mmm... b q9?
Excalibor [-\]: someone got an sms :-)
Hoyuk [10k?\]: on someone elses board?
Hoyuk [10k?\]: how rude ^^
Excalibor [-\]: dunno... it was just heard... i guess so
guta [3d\]: pal has no patience
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;B[pk]C[Excalibor [-\]: yeah, i always put the cellular in silence
slowbrain [-\]: w r15
Excalibor [-\]: okay, q9 :-)
knottycow [2d\]: the message was from his teacher: plauy K6
Excalibor [-\]: lol
ibd [7k\]: n8
slowbrain [-\]: w r15?
Excalibor [-\]: mmm... my teacher's message would be 'don't think'  or maybe 'resign' :-)
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;W[qe]C[slowbrain [-\]: thx
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;B[re]C[Excalibor [-\]: slowbrain, it was you the one who sent the sms! :-)
slowbrain [-\]: lol
slowbrain [-\]: i look at the board :)
Excalibor [-\]: yeah, i hate you guys who just do that
Excalibor [-\]: i have to digest it and then i still usually play a bad hand (aka move)
slowbrain [-\]: lol
wolokom [5k\]: what is w counting?
Excalibor [-\]: but r15 was sente, a very nice move indeed
Excalibor [-\]: liberties?
Excalibor [-\]: oops
Excalibor [-\]: white has noticed something
Excalibor [-\]: almost tore his hair off his head
BluBs [-\]: n11?
turk [6d\]: O17
lonelypony [?\]: finding ko?
wolokom [5k\]: way nit s 14
Excalibor [-\]: isn't s15 sente?
Hanne [3k\]: s14 not cool?
lonelypony [?\]: because there is always a s16
lonelypony [?\]: which involve ko
diminutive [5k\]: looks rather ajitated
Excalibor [-\]: yes
Excalibor [-\]: i think he saw something we still haven't
Excalibor [-\]: and he doesn't like it at all
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: this is great TV
slowbrain [-\]: o17 
Excalibor [-\]: very agitated indeed
Fenix [1k?\]: i hope parubaru feels like playing this time
Onmyoji [2d\]: who win?
turk [6d\]: s15 then p10 is fine for w, but w may have sth better..
Excalibor [-\]: he may play on the upper side, so maybe he's thinking in o17
beerslayer [-\]: we all win
Onmyoji [2d\]: yay!
beerslayer [-\]: *sings barneys i wuv you song*
diminutive [5k\]: M8 endagers the centre but leaves R15 vulnerable. Almost a large maia pattern
Excalibor [-\]: maia pattern?
beerslayer [-\]: *jumps off cliff because he sang a barney song*
Jadeite [?\]: miai?
diminutive [5k\]: miai
wolokom [5k\]: is w n group in danger?
beerslayer [-\]: this sure looks better for b
zoldorn [-\]: is o17 really good for w?
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;W[rd]C[knottycow [2d\]: miaiaiaiai
Excalibor [-\]: there
Excalibor [-\]: he played it forcefully
Excalibor [-\]: i think he doesn't like it
OBM [4d\]: gee
diminutive [5k\]: save his own first policy, it seems
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: then he is bluffing
slowbrain [-\]: hahahhaha
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;B[rc]C[OBM [4d\]: this feels bad
Hanne [3k\]: was that cho seok bin?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
Excalibor [-\]: b has p15
Deckard [?\]: i see the clock, but what are the time settings ?
Excalibor [-\]: attacking at q17 or r17 is a bit futile?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 1 hour+ 25 st in 10 min
Hanne [3k\]: cho seok bin also playing?
Excalibor [-\]: os is white playing s14 and lookingfor a ko fight?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no, it is In-seong
Excalibor [-\]: nevertheless, eurogotv1 will faint in byo-yomi, indeed... :-)
diminutive [5k\]: W has about 28 mins and B has about 27
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;W[ld]C[Excalibor [-\]: ouch
Hanne [3k\]: CUT
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;B[oe]C[diminutive [5k\]: tesujis galore, now
Excalibor [-\]: so it seems
OBM [4d\]: what is w thinking?
Excalibor [-\]: i don't know
Excalibor [-\]: i lost track of thir thinking a good while ago :-(
CardiffGo [2k?\]: L16 maybe only move right now
nickwild [3k\]: m17
fatihsulak [2d\]: maybe q7 
chang [3k\]: i dont see a way for this to work
chang [3k\]: black will gain sente life in center
Excalibor [-\]: come on dan guys, help us a little bit, neh? :-)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: m17 is a nice move
fatihsulak [2d\]: l16 seems only move to me but it loses points 
Denniskutl [2d\]: m17 k16 then what?
OBM [4d\]: Now is about damage control
fatihsulak [2d\]: so lets see white's plan
OBM [4d\]: or anything can be done before resign
turk [6d\]: i prefer o17 over m16
Excalibor [-\]: m17 nice? mmm... what if blackplays o13?
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;W[ed]C[CardiffGo [2k?\]: Small threat
OBM [4d\]: this is big
turk [6d\]: if W had played o17, B takes ko, then W could have used s16 as a threat
CardiffGo [2k?\]: Really?
sameasyou [2d\]: s14
turk [6d\]: now it seems B has a simple answer at O18
turk [6d\]: after w takes ko, that is
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;B[rf]C[turk [6d\]: good move
OBM [4d\]: R12 will work now
sameasyou [2d\]: Ondraj trusted me  :)
knottycow [2d\]: w lost
knottycow [2d\]: terrible shape
sameasyou [2d\]: not yet...Pal is an amazing player
knottycow [2d\]: why wan't he amazing earlier then?
Repacse [5k?\]: the ko is still worth playing
fatihsulak [2d\]: so is ondray
knottycow [2d\]: w might DIE
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;W[od]C[fatihsulak [2d\]: imo s14 is better than e16 
wolokom [5k\]: hm
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;B[nc]C[OBM [4d\]: L16?
fatihsulak [2d\]: now e17 and start praying not to die 
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;W[mi]C[sameasyou [2d\]: I think ww has to play e17 if he still wants a chance
Repacse [5k?\]: needs to live first
Chachi [3k\]: just connect?
Excalibor [-\]: mmm
fatihsulak [2d\]: isnt e17 very big atm? 
Repacse [5k?\]: not yet
beerslayer [-\]: n11 is nice
OBM [4d\]: BIGis a world of relativity
wolokom [5k\]: or l 17
fatihsulak [2d\]: black played s14 which is very good for him 
Chachi [3k\]: well
Chachi [3k\]: the main issue is o12 or n12
Chachi [3k\]: m10 can die with no issues right
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;B[nh]C[Jadeite [?\]: hehe
Excalibor [-\]: chachi, well seen
kintaro [1k\]: he want kill xD
Excalibor [-\]: if white dies up there it's all over, right?
sameasyou [2d\]: o13 is almost life...but b will get sente and defend at e17 so game over
fatihsulak [2d\]: are they still walking around :-) 
NorthWind [7k\]: W will get something from I expect
Excalibor [-\]: yup
wolokom [5k\]: what f16?
sameasyou [2d\]: is this the first round?
Jadeite [?\]: yes
wolokom [5k\]: yes
sameasyou [2d\]: great...so we have at least another 2 good games to see today
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;W[qk]C[knottycow [2d\]: w lost
Pig [2d?\]: r12?
Onmyoji [2d\]: b is pro?
Chachi [3k\]: oof, r12
OBM [4d\]: R9 is an invitation for R12, must be a trap
pierone2 [1k\]: too early to say
pierone2 [1k\]: W can still win
Onmyoji [2d\]: i dont know
Onmyoji [2d\]: b plays like 4p
pierone2 [1k\]: he is not a pro
fatihsulak [2d\]: not 3p or 5p :-) 
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;B[qg]C[Onmyoji [2d\]: he is stronger than 3p but now quite 5p
Onmyoji [2d\]: not
Jadeite [?\]: yeahhhhhhhhh
NorthWind [7k\]: mouse-slip ? :-D
LIshikawa [6k\]: i think 4.2p
OttosMops [2k\]: what's the exact difference between 3p, 4p and 5p? ;)
fatihsulak [2d\]: hmmm i need an explanation for r13 
OBM [4d\]: R13 is so strange
sxrtjhnrst: 2/3 stone
OBM [4d\]: is an everything keshi
fatihsulak [2d\]: r8 or r12 seemed normal to me 
Excalibor [-\]: maybe not to fall into the r12 trap?
nickwild [3k\]: painful for w
Onmyoji [2d\]: the difference is in how deep they can read
Jadeite [?\]: cam died
slowbrain [-\]: no
OttosMops [2k\]: differences easy to judge from the outside ;)
iaznab [3k?\]: ottosmops, there is no exact difference
OttosMops [2k\]: ^^
iaznab [3k?\]: 3p can be stronger than 5p
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: everything looks fine here, are u sure the TV feed stopped?
Onmyoji [2d\]: 3p read maybe 5mps, 4p 7-9mps
Excalibor [-\]: SE shows white dead inside black's stones... are they really dead now?
Jadeite [?\]: it's ok now thx Euro
slowbrain [-\]: i have feed
Morrostone [?\]: still running the tv
iaznab [3k?\]: onmyoji stop trolling :P
Excalibor [-\]: I lost the TV though
kintaro [1k\]: b want force conection in Q12 and play around R8 after no ?
Morrostone [?\]: and also the nice sound :D
Pig [2d?\]: SE is very good in tsume-go :)
kintaro [1k\]: to kill w
slowbrain [-\]: bite her
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;W[pl]C[Excalibor [-\]: it's loading but no new image
Chachi [3k\]: ehhh??
fatihsulak [2d\]: big trade for sente :-) 
Excalibor [-\]: Pig, yeah, I know... but ... huh?
OBM [4d\]: wow
Excalibor [-\]: yeah
kintaro [1k\]: sacrifice xD
NorthWind [7k\]: those 6 b stones beginning to look weak
Excalibor [-\]: ok, TV back after a refresh... it got frozen though
OBM [4d\]: w still have chance for a ko after the trade
Chachi [3k\]: i'd say "game over" but i've eaten my words before
stalkor [2k\]: no comment
CGBSpender [-\]: and white got E16 unresponded in the process
sxrtjhnrst: black himself isnt alive yet
Pig [2d?\]: but q8 is very big!
sxrtjhnrst: ye
fatihsulak [2d\]: q12 seems the only move to me 
stalkor [2k\]: cgb, are you saying the result might be equal for white?
fatihsulak [2d\]: for black i mean 
thekaiser [2d\]: crazy game
Hanne [3k\]: r12 > q12 
CGBSpender [-\]: equal no, but not that bad, consierding he got compensations
Chachi [3k\]: why wont he q12, he dont like the trade?
NorthWind [7k\]: gote ?
CGBSpender [-\]: i prefere r12
fatihsulak [2d\]: r12 bad aji but locally bigger 
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;B[ph]C[CGBSpender [-\]: what aji after r12 ?
iaznab [3k?\]: q11 aji
iaznab [3k?\]: after r12
OBM [4d\]: what if w O13 later?
OBM [4d\]: still ko?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
thekaiser [2d\]: probably
CGBSpender [-\]: just n12 then, OBM ?
stalkor [2k\]: i dont know what to play as white now
sameasyou [2d\]: e 17
amtgo [4k\]: e17
stalkor [2k\]: making a big moyo is tempting but i think ineffective
nickwild [3k\]: w can get ko
OBM [4d\]: R14, CGB
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;W[fd]C[iaznab [3k?\]: o13, n12, r14
OBM [4d\]: b can't throw in at P13
thekaiser [2d\]: wow
OBM [4d\]: too heavy for b
wolokom [5k\]: but to surrender is too early
iaznab [3k?\]: after o13 b must r14
OBM [4d\]: w no need to do it now
Malingo [4d\]: n12 n13 o13 after r12
wolokom [5k\]: the only hope
Pig [2d?\]: after O 13 maybe black P 12?
]
;B[ec]C[CGBSpender [-\]: it doesn't work OBM
]
;W[gd]C[CGBSpender [-\]: death in double ko
OBM [4d\]: it is not double ko
OBM [4d\]: w can choose the outside ko and do another exchange
Excalibor [-\]: now m16 is starting to work again, interesting
OBM [4d\]: read again
wolokom [5k\]: b l group is in danger
F00 [1d\]: D14
CGBSpender [-\]: r12 q11 q12 o13 n12  i see absolutely no problem :(
OBM [4d\]: R12 is double atari, after b takes the outside ko
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;B[ce]C[F00 [1d\]: or is that aji keshi?
OBM [4d\]: I meant w
F00 [1d\]: ah
NorthWind [7k\]: l16 for W ?
OBM [4d\]: D14, no need to think
Pig [2d?\]: yes, but I think black can reply O13 with P12
]
;W[df]
;B[dg]
;W[cf]
;B[cg]C[OBM [4d\]: B15
zima [1k?\]: g17 
]
;W[be]
;B[bf]
;W[ce]C[OBM [4d\]: H17
OBM [4d\]: but I think b is difficult here
F00 [1d\]: E13 is possible
F00 [1d\]: then R3
iaznab [3k?\]: L16 is difficult aji for b to handle
OBM [4d\]: E13?
OBM [4d\]: for b?
F00 [1d\]: yes just give
F00 [1d\]: I would H17 :)
Onmyoji [2d\]: i count w+58.5
OBM [4d\]: who siad I have to take now?:-)
slowbrain [-\]: i did
OBM [4d\]: if give, anyway, then why E14E15 has to be first connected?
wolokom [5k\]: l 16
fatihsulak [2d\]: l16 seems good to me but may be too coward :-) 
thekaiser [2d\]: but
Malingo [4d\]: seems b has to play l16
thekaiser [2d\]: it saves n14 xD
OBM [4d\]: B need two moves, here, D9 and H17, can't get both
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;B[kd]C[OBM [4d\]: B is in deep shiiit
cocaDJ [6d\]: is Popic playing?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: he won
thekaiser [2d\]: l16 is painfulto play for Ondrej
fatihsulak [2d\]: e13 or g17?
OBM [4d\]: or H17
]
;W[ic]C[OBM [4d\]: haha
cocaDJ [6d\]: against who?
OBM [4d\]: even furhter than that
uzmest [3k\]: w slammed that one
Repacse [5k?\]: is that a capture ?
Onmyoji [2d\]: why slam
OBM [4d\]: b can fix left side a bit by sentes in teh center?
fatihsulak [2d\]: i am not sure if he has any sente in the center
Isobeutel [7k\]: w slams nearly every one of his stons on the boart till now
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: o3 now?
wolokom [5k\]: e !3?
fatihsulak [2d\]: d9 normal to me 
stalkor [2k\]: black still leading i think
mafutrct [1k\]: n12 n13 o13 m11 p13 r14 p12 o11 q11 r12 o10 aji?
wolokom [5k\]: w is behind but back
Onmyoji [2d\]: j17 aketoshi
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;B[mj]C[mafutrct [1k\]: now i'm thinking black agrees with me
Onmyoji [2d\]: lol se
Repacse [5k?\]: :-)
Repacse [5k?\]: just shows how good n10 was
Onmyoji [2d\]: n10 killed all
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;W[kb]
;B[lb]C[Onmyoji [2d\]: what a tesuji
mafutrct [1k\]: totally^^
fatihsulak [2d\]: n10 worth 430 points according to se
]
;W[dj]C[Excalibor [-\]: n10...
fatihsulak [2d\]: i feel like white is better 
thekaiser [2d\]: with d10
thekaiser [2d\]: noir va galérer
]
;B[fh]
;W[fj]C[OBM [4d\]: now tha game just started;-)
]
;B[ci]C[TheCount [1d\]: great way to make eyeshape
OBM [4d\]: w is back into the game
Kickchon [?\]: how much time do they have left?
NorthWind [7k\]: what's the time limit ?
]
;W[cj]
;B[di]
;W[pq]C[CGBSpender [-\]: aw
OBM [4d\]: now w is leading on points and potentials
Isobeutel [7k\]: lol
knottycow [2d\]: it's a piece of cake now for B
knottycow [2d\]: if i were B, i willl win 
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;B[lq]C[Excalibor [-\]: b b10?
OBM [4d\]: really:-)
fatihsulak [2d\]: if i were black i would lose... if i were white i would lose
TheCount [1d\]: he's got cash coming out the wazoo
NorthWind [7k\]: 7d plays Q3. that's interesting
Onmyoji [2d\]: kill it
Excalibor [-\]: ah? invasion there?
mafutrct [1k\]: well q3 is a standard move in this situation
knottycow [2d\]: it's just a simple reduction of W's terriotory now
Excalibor [-\]: but m3?
fatihsulak [2d\]: n10 is helping black now 
Sinozet [?\]: Quake3?
fatihsulak [2d\]: m3 normal to me 
Excalibor [-\]: and the followup?
mafutrct [1k\]: i dont see anything wrong with m3
fatihsulak [2d\]: k3 or m5 
Excalibor [-\]: k2?
Excalibor [-\]: oh
TheCount [1d\]: m5 commits to killing
mafutrct [1k\]: difficult to cap, and difficult to defend the h3 area
Malysz [6d\]: in this situation maybe more natural will be L4
nyri [3k?\]: How about L2?
OBM [4d\]: b has ~75, with 0 potential, w has 65, with potential
mafutrct [1k\]: l2 m5 i suppose
Denniskutl [2d\]: isnt wo13 still ko?
OBM [4d\]: if w can get right solidifies, and left center enclosed, easy win
TheCount [1d\]: but hard for b to connect even after b m5
nyri [3k?\]: What is the continuation if white L4? Maybe K2?
OBM [4d\]: K3, is my move
OBM [4d\]: or L3
knottycow [2d\]: l2 
Mang: k2
OBM [4d\]: L2 won't be possible
Excalibor [-\]: k3 j2? or k3 m5?
knottycow [2d\]: L4 
TheCount [1d\]: i like l4, even though the shape looks strange
mafutrct [1k\]: l4 o3 n5 k2 ?
OBM [4d\]: can D4, porbe first
mafutrct [1k\]: i dont see any good continuation for white if he plays l4~
OBM [4d\]: has to D4 first before L4, otherwise, b has H2
Excalibor [-\]: w d4?
fatihsulak [2d\]: w l4? 
nyri [3k?\]: How does D4 help with H2?
Mang: k2 kill h2
OBM [4d\]: w is not interested in unknwon fighting, he is counting points
mafutrct [1k\]: d4 can be answered locally by c3 or d5 
mafutrct [1k\]: c3 makes c8 almost sente
zima [1k?\]: l2 
mafutrct [1k\]: and d5 makes f2 sente
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;W[li]C[OBM [4d\]: sente profit
CGBSpender [-\]: sacrifice to seal ?
OBM [4d\]: so N10 is no good after all
Denniskutl [2d\]: agree
OBM [4d\]: double gote still ahve bad ajis
nyri [3k?\]: It seems that white gets to play M9 in sente.
]
;B[ng]
;W[kq]C[fatihsulak [2d\]: l5 
]
;B[lo]C[zima [1k?\]: l6 
OBM [4d\]: if w can protect Q6 in sente, then w wins
Mem0r3x [1k\]: m2 first?
]
;W[bh]C[fatihsulak [2d\]: white better imo 
]
;B[ej]
;W[ek]
;B[ei]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: white in byo-yomi
OBM [4d\]: B11
amtgo [4k\]: how many stones?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 20
Morrostone [?\]: 25
danigabi [-\]: the trade was very interesting
Morrostone [?\]: ups, sry
danigabi [-\]: i think w got a better result from it
danigabi [-\]: white was missing a move even, in top left, and ended up making terrtory where black had territory
danigabi [-\]: in the right, white had no territory to begin with, so he only lost stones
danigabi [-\]: and he got r9 and q8 so he also had compensatin
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;W[fk]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Ku3 [10k\]: white looks sad, he in byo-yomi and can't wander around anymore
lemming [4k\]: did b always have black hair?
Pig [2d?\]: :)))
Sinozet [?\]: sry, buy why b13 still empty?
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;B[bi]C[Sinozet [?\]: A13
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: it is painted
slowbrain [-\]: lol
lemming [4k\]: very weird, at first I had trouble spotting him at all :P
OBM [4d\]: getting gote here will be bad for w
OBM [4d\]: B12 was not necessary
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;W[kc]
;B[lc]C[OBM [4d\]: time tesuji
danigabi [-\]: can i make a suggestions for EuroGoTv guys ?
freemagic [5k\]: k6
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;W[cm]C[massilia [1d\]: K6 very small
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: black now alsi in byo-yomi
freemagic [5k\]: k6 attack m3 stones
fatihsulak [2d\]: d6 
]
;B[bm]C[gary168 [?\]: w try to get some territory in the  middle
jersta [10k\]: d6
fatihsulak [2d\]: trying to protect d9 in sente too
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;W[bl]
;B[cl]
;W[dm]
;B[bn]
;W[dl]
;B[bg]
;W[dp]C[gary168 [?\]: nice
Sinozet [?\]: d5?
gary168 [?\]: now w l6? next
]
;B[cq]C[LeT63 [1d\]: looks like w winning
Excalibor [-\]: ack, i gotta go and they don't finish :-/ i hate this game, it's worse than soccer, much more addictive... will be the match available from your profile later, eurogotv1?
slowbrain [-\]: hmm stay
Miyabiyama [-\]: w now needs to attack m5 in a way that solidifies both center and right side
CGBSpender [-\]: i am tempted by white o10 or so and squeeze to seal
]
;W[kn]C[OBM [4d\]: w can achieve territories on both bottom, left center, and right side
OBM [4d\]: amazing
]
;B[ln]
;W[km]C[OBM [4d\]: where is the 2d "If I were b, I would win..."???
]
;B[pn]C[jersta [10k\]: is this game would be stored in your account euro?
]
;W[on]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes and on EuroGoTV unde SGF
jersta [10k\]: thx very much
Excalibor [-\]: ah, cool... then i leave with less pain... :-)
slowbrain [-\]: ...
pebarefoot [-\]: lol
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: video is also recorded
Excalibor [-\]: i'll be still playing it on my head though, stupid game, i should have tried othello or bridge :-)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol
OBM [4d\]: Q7?
Excalibor [-\]: laters and thanks to all who explained things
Onmyoji [2d\]: yes, they are better games
gary168 [?\]: life or death now
jersta [10k\]: or poker
stalkor [2k\]: on your head?
OBM [4d\]: P7 equals to surrender
danigabi [-\]: EuroGoTV1: as a constructive criticism, i think you will have a lot more success with the service if you add something of value to the broadcast
Excalibor [-\]: you have never went to sleep and kept watching the goban on your heads?
OBM [4d\]: Q7 must?
danigabi [-\]: For example..a commentator
slowbrain [-\]: o
Excalibor [-\]: danigabi, good idea
jersta [10k\]: yeah me excalibur
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;B[om]C[jersta [10k\]: and nightmares too :/
]
;W[pm]C[Excalibor [-\]: well, me too :-)  
danigabi [-\]: theres no much reason for me to watch them play, if i have to see the board here
]
;B[oo]
;W[qn]
;B[nn]
;W[ol]C[Sinozet [?\]: how much this game been lost?
Excalibor [-\]: okis, gotta leave, thanks and bye
Breaker [-\]: bb
Jadeite [?\]: danigabi, commentator cost money usually
]
;B[nl]C[sameasyou [2d\]: w back in the game
]
;W[po]C[pebarefoot [-\]: adios and vaya con dios
danigabi [-\]: well, someone is working, you should pay them somehow, Jadeite
Oroth [5k\]: only if you want good commentary...
danigabi [-\]: you have to spend money to make money
OBM [4d\]: F2 huge
Jadeite [?\]: so where does the money come from?
danigabi [-\]: (sometimes)
]
;B[hc]C[Oroth [5k\]: does eurogotv make any money?
Breaker [-\]: yea
]
;W[hd]
;B[ib]C[egongo [9k\]: hallo Harry, any Dutch players over there?
danigabi [-\]: yes, if you pay them, you make less clicks when you want to watch a video
]
;W[hb]C[pebarefoot [-\]: you have to make money to spend money, too
OBM [4d\]: oopsy
danigabi [-\]: which is not really a service you pay, as more as avoid a nuisance
thekaiser [2d\]: b has no hope to win
]
;B[kr]
;W[jr]
;B[kp]
;W[jq]C[gosta [4k\]: capturing e18 and n14 are about equal
Jadeite [?\]: euroTV funded from Harry's pocket and donations as far as I know
gosta [4k\]: and w bigger elsewhere
]
;B[jc]
;W[gc]C[Breaker [-\]: l12
]
;B[id]
;W[ie]
;B[hc]
;W[qc]
;B[pc]
;W[ic]
;B[dn]
;W[en]
;B[hc]
;W[mh]
;B[mg]C[Sinozet [?\]: i hope black will win...
]
;W[ic]
;B[ki]C[OBM [4d\]: move like R13 does not deserve a win
Isobeutel [7k\]: too fast euro?
Laman [1k\]: i hope too, but it doesnt look very good
OBM [4d\]: K18
]
;W[jb]
;B[hc]C[Isobeutel [7k\]: the actual game is way ahead
OBM [4d\]: J19
Breaker [-\]: w to risky
nyri [3k?\]: J19
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no, this is it
Isobeutel [7k\]: yes, i see
Isobeutel [7k\]: sorry
OBM [4d\]: no on board it is even game
jersta [10k\]: W k16 works?
]
;W[rb]
;B[gb]C[thekaiser [2d\]: s18 
OBM [4d\]: ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
thekaiser [2d\]: ...
OttosMops [2k\]: k16???
OBM [4d\]: ???????????????????????????????????????????????
Onmyoji [2d\]: ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Onmyoji [2d\]: ??????????????????????????????
]
;W[ic]C[Jadeite [?\]: stop flooding
OttosMops [2k\]: rofl
zima [1k?\]: %)
Breaker [-\]: rolf 2
OBM [4d\]: so b has 0 threat?
thekaiser [2d\]: the biggest  joke ever lol
Breaker [-\]: rofl
Breaker [-\]: hahahah
InnerSystm [5d?\]: 30k from hell, get out of this body! 
OBM [4d\]: yeah, b has no threat!
Breaker [-\]: l5
Dikdik [4k?\]: both done  best for making this ko worth more and more
gosta [4k\]: ^^ 30k = devil
guiguistar [2d\]: t16 lol
fatihsulak [2d\]: resign better then t16 :-) 
Gr1F1s [21k?\]: ыыы Я .... в Жо... гады
LIshikawa [6k\]: k5_
Javaness [2d\]: no flooding, thank you
LIshikawa [6k\]: ?
jersta [10k\]: i said white k16
Mem0r3x [1k\]: r7 is a threat isn't it
OBM [4d\]: it is not
Dikdik [4k?\]: jersta w k16 was ok
]
;B[qj]
;W[jd]C[Breaker [-\]: yey
]
;B[rk]
;W[ql]C[jersta [10k\]: thx dik
]
;B[rl]C[thekaiser [2d\]: lol
OBM [4d\]: oh lord
]
;W[sc]C[OBM [4d\]: b becomes insane
mafutrct [1k\]: not sure if k16 was ok, better j19 directly if youre going to play a local move
thekaiser [2d\]: koko ko
]
;B[qb]C[OBM [4d\]: q10
BoGoss [1k\]: hwang-simara still playin?
jersta [10k\]: ok mafutrct
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
]
;W[pb]
;B[rc]C[fatihsulak [2d\]: i think black gains something from that insane ko 
zoldorn [-\]: I think w is steal leading
zoldorn [-\]: still
thekaiser [2d\]: Don't think, SE
gosta [4k\]: steals leading ;)
fatihsulak [2d\]: it is easy to make mistake while playing ko 
Denniskutl [2d\]: w p9 
Pig [2d?\]: w can´t lose
OBM [4d\]: p9 impossible
NorthWind [7k\]: w has enough territory to graze a flock of sheep
pebarefoot [-\]: <---insert SE joke here
Denniskutl [2d\]: why?
OBM [4d\]: all aji gone
fatihsulak [2d\]: why impossible? 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Oroth [5k\]: b10 a threat?
zoldorn [-\]: on to make mistake situation should be really complicated
Denniskutl [2d\]: p9 is a double threat
zoldorn [-\]: on this level
OBM [4d\]: O9 is not that fatal after p9
pancake [3d\]: s7 
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;W[mr]
;B[lr]
;W[qc]C[gosta [4k\]: big difference between m2 and r17 ^^
fatihsulak [2d\]: r19 
Hanne [3k\]: the dim reflection in my game tree scoll knob looks broken
Hanne [3k\]: pal balogh, is that hungarian?
Laudia [6k\]: how big must blacks threat be?
]
;B[ko]
;W[jo]
;B[rc]C[gosta [4k\]: big like l5
]
;W[nq]C[LeT63 [1d\]: biggest possible :-)
fivelover [3k\]: about 22 pts  up there?
DangoMango [3k\]: is o3 a threat?
Hanne [3k\]: GO PAL
starliner [5d\]: why is w quiting from ko?
pebarefoot [-\]: wow, we've been having pretty good earthquakes for 5.5 hrs
Dikdik [4k?\]: 2 big endgame moves maybe enough?
sxrtjhnrst: becos he wins without it
fivelover [3k\]: he said he had enough
]
;B[ob]C[NorthWind [7k\]: figures he got enough from it ?
]
;W[on]C[gosta [4k\]: b must not defend m5 group?
]
;B[hj]
;W[gi]
;B[hi]
;W[gh]
;B[jh]
;W[fg]
;B[eg]
;W[jj]
;B[hh]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: black lost ontime
mi1 [1k\]: [
kuikentje [2d\]: oops :/
Isobeutel [7k\]: hmmm
Hanne [3k\]: really? it's w'sturn..
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: thank you for watching
gosta [4k\]: thx
LeT63 [1d\]: thx for transmitting
jersta [10k\]: thx euro
Adils [6k\]: t5hx
Dikdik [4k?\]: so last b turn out of time
Isobeutel [7k\]: thx
zima [1k?\]: thx
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: the clock felt at the moment hepushed the clock
Javaness [2d\]: \\o/ palika power
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: W+T
zoldorn [-\]: why last move is made by black player?
Excalibor [-\]: ah, it's finished
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