(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[60]OT[25/600 Canadian]
GN[Pandanet tour Europe, Austrian Open board 1 final round 5]PW[Jan Simara]PB[Pal Balogh]WR[5d]BR[6d]DT[2009-11-01]EV[Pandanet tour Europe, Austrian Open board 1 final round 5]RO[5]PC[Vienna]
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;W[dd]
;B[pq]
;W[dp]C[Javaness [2d\]: can we see the names of the players please
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: w8
Javaness [2d\]: i w8
Vanetti [?\]: :o)
sameasyou [2d\]: this is Pal vs?
Deckard [?\]: is ther a tournament page ?
avalin [11k\]: Balogh Pal 7d  vs. Jan Simara 5d(w)
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;W[hq]C[Jadeite [?\]: 1p ? hehe
slowbrain [-\]: lol
cookie55: what does 1p mean?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
RyuuGan [3k\]: professional
Laman [1k\]: 1p means 1 professional dan
cookie55: kk
RyuuGan [3k\]: dan
andreiraz [5k\]: since Pal have 1p?
moriishita [1d\]: is Pal pro ?
cookie55: yeah
moriishita [1d\]: ok thx
cookie55: he won his last game
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i promoted him after last game
cookie55: he already won the tournament
Deckard [?\]: where can i find the results ?
OttosMops [2k\]: if he loses now, he might not
Repacse [5k?\]: any idea`s why white is wearing a hood ?
OttosMops [2k\]: http://goverband.at/webseite/ao2009.html
Deckard [?\]: thx
Laman [1k\]: hood is stylish :)
Repacse [5k?\]: is it the climate change ?
Lingon [8k\]: he is so cool
Lingon [8k\]: eurogotv1, do you rotate the board for scribing?
daladim [1d\]: pal 1p ,?????????
daladim [1d\]: ah ok
daladim [1d\]: weird
mi1 [1k\]: idd
HlFl [-\]: how many rounds a day?
aqwzsx [2k\]: pal think a lot...
Korea4K [2d\]: Pal won the last game against Insung?
Uberdude [5d?\]: y
Korea4K [2d\]: ah thx
Javaness [2d\]: wait
cookie55: he won by 9>5 points i think
Javaness [2d\]: who promoted parubaru to pro?
cookie55: 9.5
Javaness [2d\]: cut that out
slowbrain [-\]: hahahhahahaha
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;W[cn]
;B[ip]
;W[iq]
;B[jp]
;W[hp]
;B[ho]
;W[jq]
;B[kp]
;W[lq]
;B[mo]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: good for b as c6 low
Hellhuman [4k\]: hahaha, you really did pal 1p^^
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: correct game last round at http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=SGF&replay=1257078506
Fredrik [6d\]: if he lose this one he is 4d?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no 6d
cookie55: he wont lose
cookie55: lol
Javaness [2d\]: parubaru grande palika cannot lose
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;W[nq]C[Javaness [2d\]: what is this bad shape move
Javaness [2d\]: how can white
Krustowsky [2d\]: o3 quite normal
mikan [4k\]: Can a 1p lose to a 5d?
Darg [2d\]: yes but has more aji than n3 
Krustowsky [2d\]: more aji for both sides
cookie55: once a 1d won against a 1p
axn: Hajrá Pál!
axn: Rita kikapott tőle.
mathgo [2d\]: i know o3 as bad shape, because of weakness
dangodan [7d?\]: n2 weakness
cookie55: white played too fast
Kirigo: so p4 sente?
Javaness [2d\]: black will crushing white
cookie55: but if black plays n2 white could play n1
vermes [2k\]: p4
cookie55: it would cause problems to both of them
xio [7k\]: b can't hope to seal w in, should defend the corner
cookie55: its a bad idea to play n2 for black
xio [7k\]: is b really 1p or that's just a KGS joke?
cookie55: he is 1p
Finnish [6k\]: like kgs would joke about something like that
xio [7k\]: it's just 5 minutes ago he was 7d :)
cookie55: if black play n2 white play n1 and black has no chance to get away
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;B[po]C[bluetable [-\]: clock!
Javaness [2d\]: Ing timer!
Fredrik [6d\]: and before this tournament he was 6d
Fredrik [6d\]: Balogh is improving really fast
warriorboy [1d\]: EurogoTV - why is Pal 1p? he was 7d in the last game
xio [7k\]: you can get promoted during a tournament?
Uberdude [5d?\]: it is a "joke"
Javaness [2d\]: eurogotv is messing around
Javaness [2d\]: i should ban him
warriorboy [1d\]: oh
Darg [2d\]: haha
Finnish [6k\]: ban him
GoShinobi [-\]: was the 7d also a joke or he improved from 6to7d ?
Maserati [?\]: of course you shoulc
Maserati [?\]: d
cookie55: if pal wins he is worthy of his 1p
Aku [3d\]: Pal Balogh - did he really become 1p after last game?
Maserati [?\]: what is the answer for hite g4
Maserati [?\]: ?
Citta [1k\]: if he wins he is 2p
cookie55: not so simple
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;W[qj]C[cookie55: i think that for now pal is not worthy of his 1p yet
cookie55: if he wins he will be
Newstyle [6k\]: why not r11?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
cookie55: but thats dust my opinion
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;B[go]C[Kirigo: treat to kill
LastAngel [?\]: since when is pal pro`? did i missed something?
Maserati [?\]: mr. eurogo
Ecto [4k\]: I'm glad you made that distinction, cookie. I was afraid you were speaking absolute truth
Maserati [?\]: how did pal balogh become 1p in one day?
karlik: whites name is Šimara not Shimara
GoShinobi [-\]: eurogo i think its better if you write 7d at the top ,if not every minute someone is asking
Denniskutl [2d\]: 1p?
Easytude [7k\]: .....
Denniskutl [2d\]: when did this happen?
cookie55: his last game he was 7d
cookie55: now he is sudently 1p
Denniskutl [2d\]: weird joke
cookie55: yh
slowbrain [-\]: i like it
Deha [12k\]: amazing :)
BenSenTen [?\]: n he then enter pro association n paid entrance fee n became 1p
Maserati [?\]: where is he from?
xio [7k\]: is there an aji of b l3 then n2 ?
Krustowsky [2d\]: H
BenSenTen [?\]: don't know, latin america?
twold [2k\]: just n2, xio. but w probably lives anyway
jakotaki [1k\]: brasil
Uberdude [5d?\]: q2 
cookie55: if black plays n2 he kills himself
xio [7k\]: thanks
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;W[oq]C[xio [7k\]: aji gone :)
cookie55: black n2 -w n1and black cant get away
Ecto [4k\]: q2 feels natural
vermes [2k\]: q2
BenSenTen [?\]: not q4?
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;B[pr]
;W[qm]C[cookie55: q2
vermes [2k\]: not:-)
xio [7k\]: cookie, thats's why i peroposed l3 first
Ecto [4k\]: White courageous
BenSenTen [?\]: i prefer q4, more solid
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;B[mr]
;W[lr]C[cookie55: white sould ave played n1
jakotaki [1k\]: w play v fast
BenSenTen [?\]: oh, maybe n2 is the reason for q2
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: hi Diana
zsi [1p\]: hello
Maserati [?\]: o2 n3 p2
Deha [12k\]: n3
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Pal won againt In-seong last round
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: against
cookie55: he won by 9.5 points i think
BenSenTen [?\]: wow, pal is strong
just9x9 [-\]: lol 1p :)))
zsi [1p\]: wow.. congrat for him :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: they counted 9.5, but it was 10.5
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;B[rn]
;W[qf]C[cookie55: i counted but i wasnt sure
cookie55: why did white play ther?
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;B[nd]C[OverYou: lol balogh 1p??!
Denniskutl [2d\]: yes
woidler [7k\]: I prefer w here, I wouldn't know what to do with the influence of k4 ;-)
just9x9 [-\]: eurogo promotion power
Javaness [2d\]: give pal his proper rank ;p
stalkor [1k\]: ..3p?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: tomorrow
wauiwa [-\]: eurogotv's rank system
BenSenTen [?\]: maybe 5
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: hi Oleg, how are you?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: why arnt you here?
OverYou: why can't i rewind the moves here?
OverYou: the button is greyed out
Maserati [?\]: is eurogotv a human being?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no, i am a bot
just9x9 [-\]: it is a life relay, not an internet game
OverYou: so?
just9x9 [-\]: so you cant rewind
Maserati [?\]: umm why did not he answer the questions before?
OverYou: don't get your point
markpi [5k?\]: have to option-show local
sanrensei [6k\]: is bottom resolved now? living or dead?
BenSenTen [?\]: where would be next move?
BenSenTen [?\]: upper?
just9x9 [-\]: if bottom dead game would be over
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;W[of]C[Ecto [4k\]: m2 was quite ingenious
OverYou: markpi -- just tried that, but then i don't see any comments!!!
sanrensei [6k\]: so bottom lives then
Ecto [4k\]: yes
markpi [5k?\]: lol cant have all
sanrensei [6k\]: g2?
OverYou: huh, why not, what?
OverYou: this is weird :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: OverYou view offline
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: then you can replay
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;W[re]
;B[qe]
;W[rf]C[OverYou: so chat + replay is not allowed on KGS?
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;B[kc]C[OverYou: interessant
just9x9 [-\]: omg
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: funny Dutchmen
BenSenTen [?\]: w has more points
OverYou: :)
vermes [2k\]: really?
vermes [2k\]: when?
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;W[dk]C[HlFl [-\]: just now
vermes [2k\]: w has more mojo
jakotaki [1k\]: where ?
phoenixjbc [9k\]: yes white seem to have the advantage
Denniskutl [2d\]: go jan! make the tournament interesting, otherwise pal will just sweep all :)
markpi [5k?\]: but g5 very thick so unlike that w will make center points
bonobo03 [6k\]: C 11 ?
Violence [?\]: Isn't it "Jan Simara?"
Violence [?\]: Is his name misspelled?
slowbrain [-\]: lol
markpi [5k?\]: Jan Shimari?
Laman [1k\]: it depends, in czech it is "Šimara"
Denniskutl [2d\]: misspelled but correctly pronounced
HlFl [-\]: Shimano
twold [2k\]: it's proper english transcription :-)
sheery [?\]: nope, it is not proper transcription ;) .. but it is the transcription that is to be used if one wants to get same pronunciation
phoenixjbc [9k\]: hum why does it still like this, clock is not running
twold [2k\]: which is the same thing i said with too much words ;-)
Maserati [?\]: I wonder whether pal can manage to make use of his wall or not
Ecto [4k\]: Difficult to see how
Maserati [?\]: white seems better to me
Finnish [6k\]: 1p magic
OverYou: wasn't w a 1d just 2 years ago?
OverYou: fast progress
sanrensei [6k\]: what is good for b now? approach to d16 stone?
sensemaker [4d\]: pal balogh is pro?
sensemaker [4d\]: seriously??
sensemaker [4d\]: honorary or what?
Ecto [4k\]: Imaginary
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: EuroGoTV=pro
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: -Pro
WandererX [4k\]: the admin made him pro after he won his last game
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: EuroGoTV-Pro
Krustowsky [2d\]: it's 1Pal 
WandererX [4k\]: whatever that means
sensemaker [4d\]: hmm?? i mean "in real life"
Maserati [?\]: he is a guest pro
sensemaker [4d\]: is he a pro or not?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
Javaness [2d\]: pal balogh is 9p
Laman [1k\]: he is not, he is 6d
sensemaker [4d\]: EuroGoTV1 should be credible.. but i find that hard to believe
watergun [-\]: who's pal?
sensemaker [4d\]: macisajt
hotmal: he definitely is pro. EuroGoTV1 awarded 1p to him
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: het is 1p at the EuroGoTV Professional Go association
bohica [4k\]: Pal is a 3p sandbagger
watergun [-\]: pal is macisajt?
Gyo [2d\]: yes
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;B[cf]C[sensemaker [4d\]: EuroGoTV gives out pro exams?
watergun [-\]: oh isee
Maserati [?\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?PalBalogh
Ecto [4k\]: Unorthodox approach?
watergun [-\]: thx
sensemaker [4d\]: i used to like macisajt .. until he played too infrequently
hotmal: As far as I know handing out pro diplomas makes 60% of EuroGoTV revenue
watergun [-\]: where did pal get his 1p?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: in Vienna
stalkor [1k\]: he bought it from eurogotv:P
watergun [-\]: oh i see
loFi [1d\]: cool from which country?
jakotaki [1k\]: give me too !
sensemaker [4d\]: err.. EuroGoTV organizes pro league??
sensemaker [4d\]: whats the pro status good for?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: give give, i dont give
watergun [-\]: vienna provides pro exam?
Maserati [?\]: is this a good move?
Ecto [4k\]: c13 seems too easy for white
sensemaker [4d\]: you question pro move?
WandererX [4k\]: lol
loveandgo [1k\]: C12
Maserati [?\]: you make no sense
Ecto [4k\]: c12, yes, not 13
sensemaker [4d\]: C12 seems good..
WandererX [4k\]: maserati is ?.  he could be anyone
sensemaker [4d\]: i read in master of haengma.. c12 is reasonable
WandererX [4k\]: c12 would be automatic for me\\
Maserati [?\]: I wrote that book
Maserati [?\]: you misread it
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol
sensemaker [4d\]: what haengma means, maserati?
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;W[ce]
;B[df]C[Maserati [?\]: you should be wise to understand it
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;W[fc]C[WandererX [4k\]: aa yes, c15
jakotaki [1k\]: light shape
loveHER [6d\]: i dont like whites choice..
sensemaker [4d\]: what ur choice?
Hwayoil [?\]: is pal won with seong?!
loveHER [6d\]: the obvious c12 =X
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;B[ci]C[WandererX [4k\]: hwayoil, yes pal beat seong
sensemaker [4d\]: loveHER, how come fragman went to KPMC instead of u?
Aku [3d\]: haengma's meaning is very similar to sabaki
jer [5d\]: cause he's so popular
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;W[bj]C[sensemaker [4d\]: jerome salignone !!
loveHER [6d\]: we have a rule if israel
sensemaker [4d\]: we played 
loFi [1d\]: interesting i just saw an article explaining the "obvious" move at C15 is wrong as D9 is missplaced then
loveHER [6d\]: if you go to KPMC or WAGC once you cant go the following 2 years
Javaness [2d\]: i almost went to KPMC, but i got a job instead
sensemaker [4d\]: israel got that many players to do such rule?
Aku [3d\]: C15 is good in this position.
loveHER [6d\]: not so many
loFi [1d\]: saijo seems to disagree
loveHER [6d\]: we only had 35ish players last championship
loveHER [6d\]: (which was yesterday)
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;B[cc]C[zum [?\]: who is playing?
WandererX [4k\]: whoa
Ecto [4k\]: Is that reasonable?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: who won?
WandererX [4k\]: seems fine
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: in Holland we have 3.4 youth players
zum [?\]: who is playing?
WandererX [4k\]: though D14/ C11 are a bit weak
loveHER [6d\]: in isarel almost all players are youth so we set youth to under 14
loveHER [6d\]: and now we also only have 4 players hehe
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol
loveHER [6d\]: it was quite funny
loveHER [6d\]: cuz 3 of them got trophies
zum [?\]: who is playing
vdust [2k\]: zum: look above this discussion. It is written
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: who was nr 4?
WandererX [4k\]: zum, their names are right there
loveHER [6d\]: some 5k
zum [?\]: yeah and who are those guys?
OverYou:  lol, were the palestinians invited loveHER?
vdust [2k\]: go players
vdust [2k\]: :x
Javaness [2d\]: that's a rather stupid remark OverYou
rubik [7d\]: lol
WandererX [4k\]: pal is a strong hungarian amateur
OverYou: true java
loveHER [6d\]: one youd expect from a stupid person
WandererX [4k\]: i dont know who jan is
loveHER [6d\]: anyways all amatuer go players are invited
zum [?\]: pal is 1p ...
loveHER [6d\]: we had a chinese 5d player too
WandererX [4k\]: it says so but
dangodan [7d?\]: Jan is just a Bum
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol
WandererX [4k\]: EuroGoTV just decided to make him a "1p" a few minutes ago
EuroGoTV1 [-\]:  live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
zum [?\]: aha
zum [?\]: EuroTV1 is advertising himself ... only
WandererX [4k\]: so, what is white deciding between?
Pingu007 [3d\]: when pal became pro? is it new?
hotmal: b15, c16, d17
dangodan [7d?\]: b15 and b15 
WandererX [4k\]: dangodan, why do you dislike c16?
dangodan [7d?\]: no damage to outside
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;W[dc]C[WandererX [4k\]: ah
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;B[be]C[bluetable [-\]: white clicks completely random lol
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;W[cd]C[WandererX [4k\]: d17...
loveHER [6d\]: black happy result..
WandererX [4k\]: yeah, why did he d17?
OverYou: scared..
zum [?\]: what outside?
Maserati [?\]: loveHER: can black use his wall?
WandererX [4k\]: that would be lame
meuns [1k\]: lol 1p ^^
WandererX [4k\]: if he were just scared
loveHER [6d\]: i would play b11 as black now
loveHER [6d\]: c3 also very big
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: c7
WandererX [4k\]: so, since this a tournament (right?) which means people play even games regardless of rank?
Denniskutl [2d\]: w plan is to get sente and play d2 i think
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
zum [?\]: Wanderex would play even
zum [?\]: regardless of rank
WandererX [4k\]: awsome
WandererX [4k\]: i wonder if i could even keep a live group
zum [?\]: you would play 5p in the first round
Kirigo: can ?p10 
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;B[bd]C[hotmal: playing tenuki at top left looks tempting for b now
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;W[bc]C[WandererX [4k\]: i remember years ago, when i was even more noob
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;B[bi]
;W[cj]
;B[di]C[WandererX [4k\]: when i ended up playing a sandbagger
Denniskutl [2d\]: now d2
WandererX [4k\]: who killed the whole board except one small group worth 2 pts
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;W[fk]C[loveHER [6d\]: so now c3?
zum [?\]: wnaderex: even more noob???
Maserati [?\]: wall is under attack
WandererX [4k\]: yes, like 15k
zum [?\]: 15k exist?
WandererX [4k\]: yes
derPlumps [2d\]: Jan Shimari?
hotmal: f9 understandable but kind of negative
Hwayoil [?\]: i like c3 now
derPlumps [2d\]: Pal Balogh became pro when?
slowbrain [-\]: today
abak [2k\]: Pal Balogh was promoted to 1p after Hwang In-seong crashing?
Hwayoil [?\]: or h17
WandererX [4k\]: a few minutes ago
loveHER [6d\]: if black plays h17 b18 will become troublesome for white
angelitus [3k?\]: after eurogotv had a few to many beers
abak [2k\]: heh? so BUM have no chanses
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol
Hwayoil [?\]: thats why h17 looks better than c3?
Hwayoil [?\]: if white j17 there is a move later in n17
Hwayoil [?\]: so i will play h17 for sure
hotmal: c3 looks simple and good
OverYou: goate
Hwayoil [?\]: if white d2 its no later moves to follow up
vermes [2k\]: only in Eorogo rank
vermes [2k\]: virtual:-)
Hwayoil [?\]: loveHER your games was very nice in a IGC thanks to you;-)
loveHER [6d\]: thanks
EuroGoTV1 [-\]:  live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
WandererX [4k\]: h17, c3.... anything else?
Kirigo: g2 
Hwayoil [?\]: g2
Hwayoil [?\]: :))
Hwayoil [?\]: black played g2
Hwayoil [?\]: eurogotv are u sleeping?:)
Hwayoil [?\]: g2!
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;B[gr]
;W[mq]C[wysek [2k\]: relax
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;B[cq]C[vermes [2k\]: arrived:-)
angelitus [3k?\]: f2 was a better idea?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: huh, i was just talking to a beautiful girl, dont disturb me!
Isobeutel [7k\]: lol
jakotaki [1k\]: .....
angelitus [3k?\]: its the beers i bet
slowbrain [-\]: red skirt?
meuns [1k\]: lol
goberserk [15k\]: is she a pro?
hotmal: meaning of g2 unclear
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: allmost
Denniskutl [2d\]: he can give her
vermes [2k\]: not she, he
Denniskutl [2d\]: pro rank
OverYou: who , rita pocas?
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;W[cp]
;B[dq]C[WandererX [4k\]: g2 was to decrease the potential connection between h3 and c4
hotmal: hm, do not understand w either
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no, i am not telling i was talking with Yue Li
OverYou: ooh
Hwayoil [?\]: white shouldnt play d3 instead of c4?
Denniskutl [2d\]: then gives sente
Denniskutl [2d\]: c3 d3 c4 d5 d2 e2 c2 e3 
jakotaki [1k\]: r17
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;W[rc]C[loFi [1d\]: nice timing with the move lol
loFi [1d\]: wait until opponent stands up :) i gotta remember that one
JoostC [4d\]: If black n1 white has only one eye
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;B[qc]C[drschlaper [?\]: balance
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;W[sd]
;B[rm]C[danigabi [-\]: pal balogh 1p ? lol
hotmal: the more I look at f9 the less I like it
Rye [17k\]: has the guy on the left got piles or something
abak [2k\]: n1 p1 
WandererX [4k\]: n1, h2
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;W[oc]C[danigabi [-\]: B18 no troule, white can A16 in sente
danigabi [-\]: no trouble *
JoostC [4d\]: If bn1, w p1 b l3, bl2 b k2 and black must make an eye with 05
WandererX [4k\]: doesnt w go h2 if b goes n1?
JoostC [4d\]: sorry white must make an eye
JoostC [4d\]: If white h2 black connects with p1 and white has one big eye
aqwzsx [2k\]: how much time left for both?
hotmal: b should welcome ko, some threats on lower side
WandererX [4k\]: one big splittable eye
Denniskutl [2d\]: o5 makes an eye no?
Denniskutl [2d\]: so no problem
JoostC [4d\]: I think white can make an second eye with o5, b o6, w p5 
reprisal [3d\]: that eye sucks though
reprisal [3d\]: dont want to have to
alizeee: exchange
goblitz [4k\]: bottom w only has 1 eye right?
Maserati [?\]: what would be the response to black k1
JoostC [4d\]: It means that black can make a huge wall anytime
WandererX [4k\]: would n1, h2, p1, k1 work for w?
Denniskutl [2d\]: o5 o6 p5 p6 n4 m5 q4 can even be a sente eye
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;B[od]C[JoostC [4d\]: If w o5 black might respond with n6
wysek [2k\]: WandererX: no, still one eye
Krustowsky [2d\]: cant imagine any 5d would play o5, o6
Denniskutl [2d\]: well 1p played g2
JoostC [4d\]: It means that a move like q10 is almost sente against the white group below
Finnish [6k\]: what's up with camera
goblitz [4k\]: after q4 p4 is no eye i think
Rye [17k\]: love the way that person uses a chair
alizeee: who is 1p?
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;W[qb]
;B[pb]
;W[pc]
;B[qd]
;W[ob]
;B[rb]
;W[pa]
;B[sc]C[JoostC [4d\]: If w q4 and bp4 wr4 and a move wp2 is getting sente so white can live again
]
;W[mc]
;B[md]
;W[lc]
;B[ld]C[OverYou: wow scribe on drugs
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ?
Hyperlink [9k?\]: eurogo can we have a closer view to the board ?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: why?
OverYou: very fast!
nidza92 [-\]: yes, tell the players to play slowly
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i place the moves first on IGS
alizeee: ?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i will zoom into the board in a minute
hotmal: w is not considering cut or is he?
Hyperlink [9k?\]: thx
loveandgo [1k\]: same good 4 W
alizeee: why dont place the game on TYGEM
Kirigo: can you show us Yue Li?
markpi [5k?\]: look at name of the tournament
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: better?
OverYou: i see
slowbrain [-\]: yes
]
;W[kd]C[markpi [5k?\]: my antivir told me not to install the pandanet client as he found a backdoor signature yesterday
khlhk: Balogh became pro this afternoon?
alizeee: who？
mickiewicz [3k\]: around 1 pm
sheery [?\]: then install e.g. qgo
sheery [?\]: many clients for igs
alizeee: who 1p?
Jadeite [?\]: When Euro grows 6 arms like Shiva, then maybe he can relay to more than two servers at once.
Genghis [2k\]: I am late to the game here, is white dead on the bottom?
OverYou: shimara has such gangsta look!
betise [1k\]: or maybe he can use bots to relay the moves ?
WandererX [4k\]: bottom yet to be determined
Ecto [4k\]: Bottom alive
pebarefoot [-\]: Jan has the uni-bomber look
WandererX [4k\]: w can definately live in gote
nidza92 [-\]: k1kills locally i think
]
;B[kb]C[Ecto [4k\]: k1 doesn't kill
nidza92 [-\]: how u answer
Ecto [4k\]: k2
Hoyuk [10k?\]: why not?
nidza92 [-\]: j1
]
;W[lb]C[alizeee: botom survive
Ecto [4k\]: l1
sameasyou [2d\]: L3...k1 kills locally
nidza92 [-\]: l3
nidza92 [-\]: dead
hotmal: several persons have shown the extra eye starting with o5
Ecto [4k\]: No
Ecto [4k\]: l2
WandererX [4k\]: as some other players mentioned, n1 makes only one eye
sameasyou [2d\]: but b needs another stone around p5, o5
Ecto [4k\]: then n1 h1 miai
sameasyou [2d\]: n1
JamesAdams [2k\]: n19 ??
Hoyuk [10k?\]: n1h1 swineflu hahaha
OverYou: lol
]
;B[jd]
;W[ke]C[WandererX [4k\]: n19...?
]
;B[je]C[Denniskutl [2d\]: n19 o18 
sameasyou [2d\]: Ecot...h1 is not an eye
WandererX [4k\]: heck, o17
Ecto [4k\]: Ah, right
sameasyou [2d\]: so locally w dead
hotmal: wow, this comes ... unexpected
]
;W[kf]
;B[hc]C[abak [2k\]: n19 m19 
]
;W[mf]C[Denniskutl [2d\]: n19 m19 s19 r19 o18 o17 p19 ko
Scarsick [1d?\]: hum
]
;B[ra]
;W[qa]
;B[se]C[Denniskutl [2d\]: so n19 o18 
hotmal: that was easy
abak [2k\]: ok, thx)
betise [1k\]: ko at o19?
nidza92 [-\]: o19 n19
]
;W[jf]
;B[he]C[betise [1k\]: ah
]
;W[hf]
;B[gf]
;W[hg]C[Krustowsky [2d\]: was s7 really worth it?
OverYou: use less wall
Denniskutl [2d\]: this result looks super for w
]
;B[ge]C[Finnish [6k\]: byo-yomi?
slowbrain [-\]: yes for b
wysek [2k\]: W needs a16 now?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: balogh in byoyomi
]
;W[ad]C[bluetable [-\]: what's b's plan?
hotmal: a16 gains in urgency
loveHER [6d\]: a15 
Hwayoil [?\]: black plan is to win this game
OverYou: * tournament
]
;B[ma]C[yithril [2d\]: pal is 1p?
Uberdude [5d?\]: no
JoostC [4d\]: ko
]
;W[mb]C[Ecto [4k\]: Hmm
JoostC [4d\]: no ko
rubik [7d\]: lol
abak [2k\]: nice shape)
Ecto [4k\]: If b k1, I think w j1 lives
Genghis [2k\]: Pal must have paid Euro for the upgrade
JamesAdams [2k\]: cool
Scarsick [1d?\]: what is pal strength
lordayoub [6k\]: o19
sameasyou [2d\]: 7d\\
Scarsick [1d?\]: if its not 1p
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 6d
sameasyou [2d\]: not 7?
Scarsick [1d?\]: why is it written 1p?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no, 6
Denniskutl [2d\]: n18 is even better than o18, in terms of end game
stalkor [1k\]: amazing white shape
tarantola [1k\]: oh my gos
]
;B[nk]C[OverYou: lol
abak [2k\]: http://www.europeangodatabase.eu/EGD/Player_Card.php?&key=10498246
Hoyuk [10k?\]: b now playingtowards wall
sameasyou [2d\]: yes
sameasyou [2d\]: 6d
JoostC [4d\]: Now I want black n1
tarantola [1k\]: white dead
alizeee: who is 1p?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: nobody here :)
just9x9 [-\]: pal got promoted by eurogotv
Jadeite [?\]: alizeee, no 1p, it's a joke
JoostC [4d\]: If white has to run he cannot make points with his new wall
slowbrain [-\]: but you are there
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: balogh went to toilette :)
Hwayoil [?\]: lets promote Jan Simara too, he is playing very nice
norg [3k\]: What rank is pal, then?
just9x9 [-\]: he first needs to win a ko with the last move against pop
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 6d
Javaness [2d\]: what is my rank in eurogotv association?
slowbrain [-\]: 11k
slowbrain [-\]: lol
Kuros [6k\]: lol
norg [3k\]: 11k is strongest
WandererX [4k\]: o9 certainly is problematic
Hwayoil [?\]: 10k is better because of tengen
alizeee: 7d≈1p？
Hoyuk [10k?\]: ye :)
betise [1k\]: n19 prevents l19 sente ?
]
;W[lj]C[WandererX [4k\]: er, how would it do that?
]
;B[pk]C[alizeee: 9p let 1p 2 stones
]
;W[qk]C[WandererX [4k\]: in an even game could a 1p beat a 9p sometimes?
loveHER [6d\]: r8 
]
;B[ql]C[just9x9 [-\]: sure wanderer
]
;W[pl]
;B[rl]C[sixstus [3k\]: 1p???
ChoMama [-\]: yep
WandererX [4k\]: wow
hotmal: hm, what does w think?
alizeee: but not often
]
;W[pj]C[ChoMama [-\]: p rank is for life, so a new 1p can in theory be stronger than old 9p
dresu [30k\]: KGS 6d could beat 9p sometimes (Aguilar for example)
WandererX [4k\]: of course
OverYou: w want sente for h2?
]
;B[ok]
;W[oj]C[WandererX [4k\]: just wondering if its about the same as a 2k vs a 4k-5k or something
]
;B[pf]C[WandererX [4k\]: oh really, its for life
]
;W[pg]
;B[oe]C[alizeee: 4k let 2k 2 stones
WandererX [4k\]: yeah, alizeee.  thats why i asked.  its just that the levels are so different
]
;W[pe]
;B[nc]
;W[nb]
;B[pf]C[WandererX [4k\]: that i couldnt be sure things work the same
bigbin [4d\]: k1 can kill loveher ?
dangodan [6d\]: 6d kgs vs 9p is like 1k vs 10k
]
;W[og]C[huyhuy [3d\]: O.o
huyhuy [3d\]: 6d like 1k ?
WandererX [4k\]: k1 doesnt kill i think
ChoMama [-\]: like 10k vs, 1k, maybe?
alizeee: 9p korea or china ,not 9p japan
sameasyou [2d\]: no...between 1k and 10 7-9 stones....between 6d KGS and 9d 4 maybe 5 stones
WandererX [4k\]: but N1 kills
OverYou: 9 stones? hardly
alizeee: 9p japan too weak
bigbin [4d\]: n1 can't
Jadeite [?\]: concentrate on the game?
dangodan [6d\]: not stones but proberbility in even game
JoostC [4d\]: I played four stone games with Gua Juan and with Young Soon and lost both
JoostC [4d\]: They are 5p
WandererX [4k\]: n1 kills locally, i think
alizeee: 4 stones lose?
JoostC [4d\]: yes
bigbin [4d\]: beat 9p with hand 5 is not so difficult :)
just9x9 [-\]: n1 m1 and still eye there for w
JoostC [4d\]: 5 dans got 3 stones and lost too
haratsos [4k\]: last time pal balogh was 7d, now why 1p is writen?
haratsos [4k\]: is he a pro?
WandererX [4k\]: n1,m1m k1
Konsta [-\]: above a pro
bigbin [4d\]: n1 h2 
just9x9 [-\]: j1 then?
WandererX [4k\]: *n1, m1, k1
alizeee: 7d≈1p
alizeee: so，。。。。
Breaker [7k\]: artem is pro so?
Breaker [7k\]: he is 7d
]
;B[jk]C[WandererX [4k\]: n1, h2, p1
gisel [2d\]: Pal is surely going up in ranks fast, if he wins this, then he will probably go to 9p :)
ChoMama [-\]: artem not pro
Breaker [7k\]: so
Breaker [7k\]: why the guy told
]
;W[ll]
;B[mm]C[Breaker [7k\]: 7d =pro
Breaker [7k\]: ?
Breaker [7k\]: i not understand
Finnish [6k\]: artem isn't pro
Hoyuk [10k?\]: artem wants pro
Denniskutl [2d\]: now w can test b by o5
jakotaki [1k\]: 7,5d = pro
ChoMama [-\]: pro strength, maybe
dresu [30k\]: there is a huge difference between 7d and 7d KGS
Javaness [2d\]: in the EGF system 7d is actually pro
Finnish [6k\]: " My dream is to become a pro. "
Breaker [7k\]: so artem is pro 
Breaker [7k\]: nice
hotmal: at some point w has to defend lower side, no?
jernaze [2d\]: no
Breaker [7k\]: u telling
Javaness [2d\]: artem is not egf 7d
Breaker [7k\]: :|
aqwzsx [2k\]: he is pro level
Breaker [7k\]: haha
Breaker [7k\]: ok
Hoyuk [10k?\]: 
WandererX [4k\]: yeah w needs to do something on bottom at some point soon
jernaze [2d\]: kgs 7d is around egf 5d
Breaker [7k\]: what is egf?
Maserati [?\]: who is ahead?
ChoMama [-\]: european go federation
EuroGoTV1 [-\]:  live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
alizeee: 8d is world champion
]
;W[jj]C[Denniskutl [2d\]: hmm
just9x9 [-\]: n1 m1 k1 j1 j2 k2 h1 l1 l3 h2 easy life for w there wandererx
OverYou: balogh 1p looks a bit nerdy :D
JoostC [4d\]: I guess I am wrong with n1 to kill white
hotmal: let us see if bottom lives now
HlFl [-\]: i thought it was more like kgs 7d = aga 5d = egf 3d
Breaker [7k\]: who is pal balogh in cam?
OverYou: no hood
]
;B[kk]C[alizeee: 8d is world champion ,amateyr
]
;W[lk]C[Breaker [7k\]: nvm
]
;B[kj]
;W[ki]
;B[ij]
;W[ji]
;B[ik]C[Breaker [7k\]: he did a star 
WandererX [4k\]: ok then, n1, m1, l3
]
;W[bf]
;B[bg]
;W[ae]
;B[gb]C[Denniskutl [2d\]: n1 h2 then what?
WandererX [4k\]: p1
just9x9 [-\]: n1 h2 p1
Denniskutl [2d\]: then m
Denniskutl [2d\]: m1
JoostC [4d\]: o1
bigbin [4d\]: o1 k1
Denniskutl [2d\]: ok:)
Breaker [7k\]: the sound is very good professional mic :D
Denniskutl [2d\]: k1 l2 ,
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: thx
goblitz [4k\]: white doesnt like to play t14?
just9x9 [-\]: n1 m1 l3 l2 j1 k1 
]
;W[nj]C[Kirigo: where is Yue Li?
]
;B[nl]C[alizeee: who is yue li
WandererX [4k\]: goblitz, he could be saving as a ko threat
Genghis [2k\]: does anyone have an accurate count?
just9x9 [-\]: maybe ko after l1 ins of k1?
Darius87 [4d?\]: w is gonna play T14
]
;W[no]C[just9x9 [-\]: inst of j1 sry
Denniskutl [2d\]: now n1!
just9x9 [-\]: k1 inst of j1
hotmal: t14 reduces w own libs, lets b invade at s11
alizeee: T14 too small
Breaker [7k\]: e8
Darius87 [4d?\]: T14 just sente 
]
;B[el]
;W[ek]
;B[dm]
;W[cm]
;B[bq]
;W[bp]
;B[aj]
;W[ak]
;B[ai]
;W[bl]C[Jugero [4k\]: s12 r13 
alizeee: too fast
Lenz [3k\]: no, b r12 first move
Pempu [3d\]: P6 
]
;B[rh]
;W[qg]C[JoostC [4d\]: Black p5?
dresu [30k\]: isn't w dead after n1 m1 l3 l2 k1 
Lenz [3k\]: s12*
WandererX [4k\]: yes dresu, i think so
norg [3k\]: Dresu - if w follows that sequence, he deserves to die
just9x9 [-\]: try n1 k1 then
JoostC [4d\]: after k1 l2
Hoyuk [10k?\]: lol norg
gru [7k\]: s9,
dresu [30k\]: you have a better one for w norg?
Finnish [6k\]: woot s9?
Finnish [6k\]: t9
alizeee: t10
Finnish [6k\]: t9 or t11 connect
Darius87 [4d?\]: O6 big
alizeee: e19
norg [3k\]: The flaw is at m1. After n1, the n2 stone can still be killed with o2, so w essentially gets to moves around k1 to live. I don't know what the actual sequence would be, but it's there somewhere...
]
;B[ms]C[JoostC [4d\]: yes
Breaker [7k\]: wowa
WandererX [4k\]: HERE IT IS
wotan123 [2d\]: hm
Breaker [7k\]: powerfull
weishaupt [7k?\]: :)
Breaker [7k\]: lol
just9x9 [-\]: k1 now my move
dresu [30k\]: k1 l2 
just9x9 [-\]: l3 then
Denniskutl [2d\]: everybody has a limited patiente :)
dresu [30k\]: p1 then
wotan123 [2d\]: now we see the solution of the L&D problem
alizeee: t14
OverYou: or fail to see
vcanelone [1k?\]: here you are
Kirigo: what is W ?m5 
hotmal: if this works why did he leave it so long?
OverYou: for fun?
WandererX [4k\]: i think m1 is automatic no?
OverYou: he's 1p after all...
Darius87 [4d?\]: u kyus  can't understand
Genghis [2k\]: what about white O1?
Krustowsky [2d\]: only endgame
Finnish [6k\]: o1 kills it though
JoostC [4d\]: I think black can win with normal endgame too
Finnish [6k\]: but not sure that can he get 2 eyes
Hoyuk [10k?\]: i am superkyu
WandererX [4k\]: white can kill n1, yes
just9x9 [-\]: h1 then
Altist [1k\]: Pal Balogh pro??????
just9x9 [-\]: k1 l2 l3 p1 h1
Darius87 [4d?\]: why do u know him ?
WandererX [4k\]: but, the probably is doing that and making a second eye
Maserati [?\]: he is pro^2
WandererX [4k\]: *probably = problem
sanrensei [6k\]: why is everyone surprised about pal being pro??
vcanelone [1k?\]: w has a lot of places to defend
Zyptryn [3d\]: looks dead to me
norg [3k\]: Because pal isn't pro
Darius87 [4d?\]: i'm not  and i don't care
WandererX [4k\]: deeead
hotmal: maybe parubaru always eager to provide good spectacle to audience
]
;W[pp]
;B[qp]C[dresu [30k\]: then h2 is enough just9x9
ucc: w hard
Ecto [4k\]: I do not understand why m1 k1 j1 j2 h2 h1 doesn't let w live
loveHER [6d\]: ecto
Zyptryn [3d\]: p2
WandererX [4k\]: b would play j1
loveHER [6d\]: m1 l3 l2 k1 
WandererX [4k\]: *wouldnt play j1
Ecto [4k\]: It would be white j1
Zyptryn [3d\]: then p4 sente
]
;W[op]C[just9x9 [-\]: seems you're right dresu
Thorvald [-\]: w o2 
danigabi [-\]: this seems hard to kill
]
;B[qo]C[Hoyuk [10k?\]: dani, why is your rank gone?
loveHER [6d\]: seems dead to me
danigabi [-\]: bad aji at R3
wotan123 [2d\]: so seems not clear
EuroGoTV1 [-\]:  live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Denniskutl [2d\]: now r3?
bigbin [4d\]: why b not connect at r3
hotmal: inhowfar is r3 still a problem?
WandererX [4k\]: ecto-, before b goes to 1 he goes to l3
danigabi [-\]: it seems not enough to live with R3
Darius87 [4d?\]: maybe he didn't see R3 aji ?
danigabi [-\]: because if b gets p2 its useless
danigabi [-\]: now probably m5
WandererX [4k\]: w m1, b l3, w l2, bk1
danigabi [-\]: because l4 is in damezumari in the kill
Altist [1k\]: r3 aji??
patrickelo [13k\]: whats aji?
Zyptryn [3d\]: p2 now I guess
danigabi [-\]: the question is, does black need to play?
]
;W[hr]
;B[or]C[danigabi [-\]: need to kill *
]
;W[nr]C[hotmal: no aji at r3
alizeee: o1
fexef [9k\]: patrick: http://senseis.xmp.net/?Aji
Zyptryn [3d\]: this dun work
patrickelo [13k\]: ty
]
;B[ns]
;W[os]
;B[ps]
;W[ls]
;B[os]C[Greyish [1d\]: w dead
Zyptryn [3d\]: mm actually
hotmal: b got eye, w cannot approach
bigbin [4d\]: m5 must
alizeee: m5
Zyptryn [3d\]: can white escape :D
]
;W[kq]C[Zyptryn [3d\]: first l3
EdhelDil [5k\]: ?? k1?
Darius87 [4d?\]: w alive
Zyptryn [3d\]: then m5 possible, but maybe n4 first?
JoostC [4d\]: If m5 bn6
danigabi [-\]: h1 is the kill move usually
JoostC [4d\]: wn6
EdhelDil [5k\]: k1 was living?
Maserati [?\]: m5 
danigabi [-\]: if white had k1,. black h1
Zyptryn [3d\]: n4
]
;B[hs]
;W[is]
;B[jr]C[xio [7k\]: b blkoodthirsty
alizeee: k2
wotan123 [2d\]: hm
aqwzsx [2k\]: ouch
VanEeden [4d\]: w K1, bH1, w L2 alive
alizeee: g1
Breaker [7k\]: cheating clock
Breaker [7k\]: hmm
just9x9 [-\]: w h1 b l2
Altist [1k\]: m5
Ecto [4k\]: k1 would have been seki
danigabi [-\]: oh, well, l2 before h1 :)
Javaness [2d\]: Hands up
wotan123 [2d\]: ;-)
Darius87 [4d?\]: w should have played R3 directly ?
Javaness [2d\]: parubaru \\o/
hotmal: w m5  b n6
norg [3k\]: n4 to try to run away?
alizeee: r3
norg [3k\]: n4 p5 m5 n6 l5 kind of thing
GERMANY [18k\]: looks like w is dead to me
vcanelone [1k?\]: what a great game, one player count the stones he need, and the other set on the clock kindfully
hotmal: w should have listened to us
danigabi [-\]: m5 directly is better style than n4
danigabi [-\]: try to avoid exchanges you dont need
]
;W[mn]C[danigabi [-\]: mabyelater its worthwile for black to play at p5
Darius87 [4d?\]: ok sensei
WandererX [4k\]: b cant atari :P
alizeee: m5
nicat [2k\]: life with m1 instead of h2?
leachy [10k\]: m4
GERMANY [18k\]: b m7
Genghis [2k\]: I think this gives white an eye
sameasyou [2d\]: ko
sameasyou [2d\]: ?
]
;B[lo]C[Zyptryn [3d\]: I dun see ko
Zyptryn [3d\]: but yeah...
]
;W[nn]C[Breaker [7k\]: tv laged?
]
;B[ln]C[WandererX [4k\]: o9 looks attackable
bigbin [4d\]: p5
EdhelDil [5k\]: m7 
Altist [1k\]: nothing works
danigabi [-\]: nice
danigabi [-\]: w can live
norg [3k\]: m7 and p7 are miai?
Zyptryn [3d\]: ah I see
xlREDlx [8k\]: I like the way black keeps the stones on the table lol
danigabi [-\]: p5 n4 p7 m7 o7 n8 q6 
Genghis [2k\]: p6 might be an eyre
Zyptryn [3d\]: if white m7, black p7 will let white live
]
;W[oo]C[GERMANY [18k\]:  w o7
OverYou: xIRED, ponukki :)
]
;B[mp]C[alizeee: o7 than o6
bigbin [4d\]: dani got it
Tetriste [-\]: :O
GERMANY [18k\]: nice 
]
;W[om]C[JoostC [4d\]: if p7 bo7?
Scarsick [1d?\]: hum w dead
jernaze [2d\]: w still dead
NieWeiPing [5k\]: p8?
gryn [1k?\]: white alive :P
Hoyuk [10k?\]: vely good
Zyptryn [3d\]: white live
loveHER [6d\]: nah lived
NieWeiPing [5k\]: no
NieWeiPing [5k\]: live
Laman [1k\]: alive, nice one
Zyptryn [3d\]: lol
gryn [1k?\]: everyone quick tell us what you think, not what you know!
alizeee: q6
JamesAdams [2k\]: yeah 
sensemaker [4d\]: live
Zyptryn [3d\]: then cut
GERMANY [18k\]: b Q6
WandererX [4k\]: ko at best
Zyptryn [3d\]: no complete live
Uberdude [5d?\]: i wonder why b waired for n1 until after w had played o5
Denniskutl [2d\]: i wonder if w read this or it is sheer luck :)
Benjii [3d\]: o7
Jadeite [?\]: signal to noise ratio bad
maciek [1d\]: luck
Greyish [1d\]: just q6
Hoyuk [10k?\]: read
WandererX [4k\]: oh yes i see
sensemaker [4d\]: sheer luck
norg [3k\]: o7 m7, surely?
hotmal: b better be careful in endgame now, this was costly
bigbin [4d\]: b counts ko
dresu [30k\]: q6 does not work
maciek [1d\]: all about luc:-)
Altist [1k\]: 30k yeaaaaa
weishaupt [7k?\]: q7
GERMANY [18k\]:  b Q6 to avoid another eye for white
Zyptryn [3d\]: what ko?
sensemaker [4d\]: 30k exists?
Emerson [8k\]: yeahhhhhhhh
Hoyuk [10k?\]: 30k rulez yeeee
Greyish [1d\]: ah yeah blind
sameasyou [2d\]: flashback might turn the final result of the tournament around
gryn [1k?\]: 30k are like unicorns
TheCount [1d\]: so what's the response to q6?
Suiyobi [-\]: ^^
]
;B[lm]C[Lenz [3k\]: q6 o7
Zyptryn [3d\]: m7
zum [?\]: anything changes if pal loses?
dresu [30k\]: q6 m7 and w has like 15 eyes
wotan123 [2d\]: dresu is not 30k, look at his graph
]
;W[nm]C[sameasyou [2d\]: not sure
]
;B[ml]
;W[pn]
;B[qn]
;W[pm]C[Zyptryn [3d\]: lol
]
;B[gs]C[Suiyobi [-\]: only 30k in unieverse :)
gryn [1k?\]: g1 is sente
Altist [1k\]: wow
]
;W[ir]C[JamesAdams [2k\]: coool
gryn [1k?\]: (at least)
Vador [?\]: So W had better close the door than kill...
]
;B[kl]C[Zyptryn [3d\]: best life ever
norg [3k\]: Wow
Zyptryn [3d\]: black behind now
alizeee: coooooool
roflwaffle [7k\]: ohh i see they upped pal's ranking now
norg [3k\]: You have to wonder what happened to dresu's graph...
JamesAdams [2k\]: well done w
wotan123 [2d\]: w have seen this seguence all the time
calin [1d\]: good reading for w
Hoyuk [10k?\]: that is why i say dresu rule
roflwaffle [7k\]: so much for going to sleep for a few hours
weishaupt [7k?\]: black drops a ranking after that
Zyptryn [3d\]: black lost pts
Zyptryn [3d\]: here
]
;W[gl]C[sameasyou [2d\]: yes
]
;B[si]C[Mr0 [3d\]: s9 
GERMANY [18k\]: wow but black got  the corner 
Darius87 [4d?\]: with normal yose   he could win easily
bigbin [4d\]: sure
Zyptryn [3d\]: that huge...
]
;W[il]C[norg [3k\]: Who is ahead?
gryn [1k?\]: n10
Zyptryn [3d\]: white losing out in yose..
alizeee: w win
Darius87 [4d?\]: w is ahead
]
;B[ii]C[Kirigo: Jan becomes  1p?*
Zyptryn [3d\]: should have played sentes first
hotmal: pro power will prevail in yose
Jadeite [?\]: lol
Hoyuk [10k?\]: he no pro
]
;W[ih]
;B[hh]C[Afro [2k\]: D19
]
;W[ig]
;B[mj]
;W[mi]
;B[mk]
;W[li]
;B[gg]C[gryn [1k?\]: nice sequence
TonyTiger [3d\]: black failed to win
gryn [1k?\]: ok now kill the center group black ;)
bigbin [4d\]:  a3
YeknomGib [4k\]: white failed to lose
GERMANY [18k\]: ^^
Suiyobi [-\]: not yet
Zyptryn [3d\]: l-19
Darius87 [4d?\]: it's damn close
Tetriste [-\]: and I failed to register :/
Zyptryn [3d\]: L=19 now
Mr0 [3d\]: f18 
Zyptryn [3d\]: l-19 first
Emerson [8k\]: black behind by about 3.5?
Mr0 [3d\]: yes
Zyptryn [3d\]: f-18 gote, save for later
HlFl [-\]: how much does first place win?
donGoku [5k\]: e18
]
;W[ka]
;B[ib]C[salome1 [6k\]: 800 euro
calin [1d\]: black failed at a 5d reading... so he's not to be proud of this game...
]
;W[aq]C[kavias [4k\]: 800 euro
]
;B[ar]
;W[ap]C[wotan123 [2d\]: first price is a fiat panda
zum [?\]: first place 800.000 euros
kavias [4k\]: I'm not sure
Zyptryn [3d\]: black won't respond to this...
]
;B[da]C[Afro [2k\]: yea right...
HlFl [-\]: not bad 
Emerson [8k\]: eight hundred thousand euro?
hotmal: w k7 sente
freemagic [5k\]: who ahead?
Kuros [6k\]: b+73.5
]
;W[fa]
;B[fb]
;W[eb]
;B[ea]
;W[ca]
;B[ga]
;W[db]C[indianayk [5d\]: it's going to be difficult for b to cover komi
]
;B[br]C[Altist [1k\]: e6
sensemaker [4d\]: pro lost?
HlFl [-\]: maybe
kavias [4k\]: is not pro
donGoku [5k\]: b leads now i think
Mr0 [3d\]: k7 
salome1 [6k\]: ?
Laman [1k\]: not so pro :)
Afro [2k\]: impossible!\]
calin [1d\]: pro missread a fight
Kirigo: B wins
]
;W[jm]C[Zyptryn [3d\]: white lose out big time in yose
]
;B[gi]C[kavias [4k\]: is 6d amateur
just9x9 [-\]: one thing is for sure, pal will be deranked after this game...
]
;W[fi]
;B[ei]C[Emerson [8k\]: i thought that once you go P, you never go back?
Zyptryn [3d\]: black winning... white lost about 20 pts in yose
sensemaker [4d\]: 1p cant be deranked right?
freemagic [5k\]: 1p can be deranked?
Darius87 [4d?\]: no
hotmal: not only 800k€, the winner also gets marketing contract with big coffee company
just9x9 [-\]: this 1p can be deranked :)
mirdolatte [2d\]: b is macisajit
donGoku [5k\]: its just a joke that he is 1p
Darius87 [4d?\]: why this in particular ?
ChoMama [-\]: tough crowd, only as good as your last game?
donGoku [5k\]: like in april 1.
Darius87 [4d?\]: a joke ?
donGoku [5k\]: but now nov. 1.
Scarsick [1d?\]: why mde the joke? :p
]
;W[fj]C[Scarsick [1d?\]: why = who
Scarsick [1d?\]: made*
Laman [1k\]: eurogotv1
Isobeutel [7k\]: eurogotv
Hoyuk [10k?\]: wow, last night was halloween, i forgot
Tetriste [-\]: wasn't Balogh 7d amateur last time?
jojo75 [1k\]: lol
]
;B[fh]C[donGoku [5k\]: Pal is 6d
uzmest [3k\]: the least we can say is that the joke is working
Scarsick [1d?\]: i would have put 9p at least, for a real joke :)
donGoku [5k\]: his kgs account is 7d
mirdolatte [2d\]: kgs 7d
]
;W[fm]C[sensemaker [4d\]: EuroGoTV gives out pro ranks, Tetriste
Tetriste [-\]: nice
Tetriste [-\]: I want
Hoyuk [10k?\]: i pay 50 nuts for pro rank
]
;B[en]C[wotan123 [2d\]: eurogotv sell pro ranks, nice ;-)
]
;W[em]C[Emerson [8k\]: ill pay 2 galleons
]
;B[dn]
;W[dl]C[Zyptryn [3d\]: ,,,,
Zyptryn [3d\]: d-8 small
]
;B[hm]
;W[hl]C[TheCount [1d\]: i get offers for pro ranks in my email all the time
Zyptryn [3d\]: white just lose out again
HlFl [-\]: this is close
]
;B[im]C[sensemaker [4d\]: d8 ok
]
;W[jl]
;B[jn]
;W[km]C[Zyptryn [3d\]: there was sentes white could have played first
]
;B[gj]C[indianayk [5d\]: w should play e15 as sente
Zyptryn [3d\]: like t-14 and s-9
]
;W[kn]
;B[jo]C[HlFl [-\]: w can hold this
sensemaker [4d\]: s9 not urgent
]
;W[ee]
;B[ef]C[Zyptryn [3d\]: g3
HlFl [-\]: what is the time situation
]
;W[fe]
;B[ja]
;W[la]
;B[ep]C[kavias [4k\]: w gote
kavias [4k\]: not good
hotmal: e4 belonged to w
hotmal: how could he miss this
indianayk [5d\]: yes
gryn [1k?\]: 51+komi white, 49 black?
bigbin [4d\]: e4 e3 belong w, really
alizeee: black is 1p
HlFl [-\]: YES!!!
Tetriste [-\]: my little brother is 1p...
]
;W[gm]
;B[qh]
;W[ph]C[Zyptryn [3d\]: errr
gryn [1k?\]: my nephew likes to pee.
Zyptryn [3d\]: what white doing?
VanEeden [4d\]: all your e3 are belong to us
Zyptryn [3d\]: h7 like huh?
Hoyuk [10k?\]: nice gryn
]
;B[gd]C[TheCount [1d\]: g3
Denniskutl [2d\]: d5 
fexef [9k\]: g3!
Finnish [6k\]: i think b has over 50
Zyptryn [3d\]: h3
]
;W[fd]C[Zyptryn [3d\]: g3
xio [7k\]: w+10?
Zyptryn [3d\]: t-14
Zyptryn [3d\]: s-9
norg [3k\]: I count about 50 for b, 60 for w (including komi)
s0m [2k\]: what is the komi value ?
Zyptryn [3d\]: play sentes
]
;B[ag]C[Zyptryn [3d\]: gosh
norg [3k\]: But I'm probably wrong
alizeee: a close game
kavias [4k\]: 6.5
gryn [1k?\]: yeah maybe 55 at most for black.
]
;W[gq]
;B[fr]C[Emerson [8k\]: w 55.5, b 50 ?
loveHER [6d\]: w yose catastrophic
norg [3k\]: My counting is accurate to the nearest 20 or so
Finnish [6k\]: white 55.5
xio [7k\]: that's similar :)
bigbin [4d\]: s9 a point
gryn [1k?\]: (which puts white a win under komi)
]
;W[rk]
;B[sk]C[Breaker [7k\]: w won ?
hotmal: w h6
HlFl [-\]: is w in time pressure?
TheCount [1d\]: sente first
Maserati [?\]: h6 nice
sensemaker [4d\]: h6
]
;W[hn]C[Zyptryn [3d\]: j15
]
;B[in]C[flogo [2d\]: f19
]
;W[gn]C[Zyptryn [3d\]: sente 0.5 pts
loveHER [6d\]: r11 
]
;B[qi]
;W[rj]
;B[sj]C[loveHER [6d\]: r11 was also white sente
gryn [1k?\]: h6 was correct move for white.
loveHER [6d\]: white miss too many of these..
Altist [1k\]: d5
bigbin [4d\]: yeah
]
;W[fa]C[jojo75 [1k\]: D5
kavias [4k\]: if white wins there are 4 players with 4 victories
]
;B[pi]
;W[oi]
;B[ea]C[Emerson [8k\]: 55.5 w, 50 black is my count
gryn [1k?\]: white will win
Emerson [8k\]: w+5.5
gryn [1k?\]: but under komi i think.
]
;W[ff]
;B[fg]C[markpi [5k?\]: w 2p then?
gryn [1k?\]: no. white 5d then :P
HlFl [-\]: true
Ecto [4k\]: d5
Aoki [?\]: d5 
Breaker [7k\]: w becoming 9p
Breaker [7k\]: ;|)
Vador [?\]: Mistake by EuroGoTV
OverYou: alert
Zyptryn [3d\]: h-9
norg [3k\]: w used to be KGS 9d
HlFl [-\]: speaking of eurogotv
wauiwa [-\]: g9
]
;W[do]C[Emerson [8k\]: "mistake" to get more viewers ;-)
jojo75 [1k\]: lol
Zyptryn [3d\]: woo nice sente
GERMANY [18k\]: lol
gryn [1k?\]: white wins easily
Maserati [?\]: sente
hotmal: attack on n3 group cost b the game, kind of ironic
OverYou: lol
loveHER [6d\]: yeah im counting more for white even on the board
OverYou: ye
]
;B[af]
;W[be]C[gryn [1k?\]: still alot of mistakes by white in yose
gryn [1k?\]: but still wone
OverYou: where?
gryn [1k?\]: won*
Zyptryn [3d\]: e-5
]
;B[nf]
;W[ng]C[Maserati [?\]: e5 instead of b15
loveHER [6d\]: g9 
Zyptryn [3d\]: white e-5..
Zyptryn [3d\]: cap 3 stones
hotmal: if w anticipated life sequence for n3 group then he is really good
]
;B[me]
;W[lf]C[xio [7k\]: b gets degraded back to 6d :)
Zyptryn [3d\]: NO one seen e-5?
norg [3k\]: Why not m15?
loveHER [6d\]: e5 captures nothing
gryn [1k?\]: i think the 1p get's to remain 1p and the 5d, 5d. in fact :P
Altist [1k\]: w e5 does nothing
Zyptryn [3d\]: e-5, then f-4
Tetriste [-\]: e5 f6
Ecto [4k\]: why e5? 0 ko threat
Zyptryn [3d\]: then l5
Solid30k [2k\]: e snapback right?
Zyptryn [3d\]: yes
gryn [1k?\]: e5 f6 
]
;B[gk]C[Zyptryn [3d\]: snap back
loveHER [6d\]: still nothing zap
gryn [1k?\]: no snapback yet...
Vador [?\]: What is time system ? 10 minutes for 25 moves ?
jernaze [2d\]: f4 is a gift for b
Darius87 [4d?\]: e5 is nothing
gryn [1k?\]: have o4 and o8 liberties
Zyptryn [3d\]: oh oops
Maserati [?\]: now e5
Zyptryn [3d\]: missed 1 liberty
WandererX [4k\]: too many liberties
Zyptryn [3d\]: lol
jernaze [2d\]: a free point
loveHER [6d\]: e4 just -1 point
Zyptryn [3d\]: didn't see p8
]
;W[ie]C[Emerson [8k\]: 53.5 white, 46 black ...
]
;B[id]C[bluetable [-\]: slick move
Darius87 [4d?\]: zyptryn 3d ?
WandererX [4k\]: but its a free point in sente
gryn [1k?\]: it's several free ko threats :)
yame [1k\]: H9
Solid30k [2k\]: aww there is o4 lib hehe
HlFl [-\]: they are playing so fast
jernaze [2d\]: lol
TheCount [1d\]: e5 is a point sente
]
;W[hk]
;B[hj]C[GoVortex [5d\]: seki in left corner ?
GoVortex [5d\]: right
GoVortex [5d\]: right corner
gryn [1k?\]: e5 is no point...
Pig [2d?\]: e5 is not sente :)
hotmal: how seki?
NateC [2d\]: It's a space station :)
gryn [1k?\]: it is sente
Zyptryn [3d\]: e5 sente, just no pt
TheCount [1d\]: not anymore
norg [3k\]: It's two eye seki
Zyptryn [3d\]: oh yeah
Zyptryn [3d\]: haha
alizeee: j14
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i lost the game
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: :P
Pig [2d?\]: o4, p8 two liberties
Jadeite [?\]: oh no
s0m [2k\]: s3 make something ?
alizeee: j14 sente
hotmal: no, b lost the game
gryn [1k?\]: i always miss two eye seki when i play :P
Beldur [?\]: J14 !!
Tetriste [-\]: w will have to take f8 for that big sequence...
just9x9 [-\]: well it is over anyway
alizeee: o4,o8
inte [?\]: yes, you put too much pressure on Pal with that 1p rank.
loveHER [6d\]: just tell us score..
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: now they are playing dame
pebarefoot [-\]: well darn it, harry, lol
norg [3k\]: Can't w take a point with the two kos?
Krustowsky [2d\]: pls zoom in
gryn [1k?\]: yes could
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: harrys job is really exhausting
gryn [1k?\]: but won't win or lose over it.
Darius87 [4d?\]: eurogo  said he lost the game
norg [3k\]: SE says w + 4.5
pebarefoot [-\]: I know, just giving some good natured bs
Emerson [8k\]: b 46, w 53.5, w+7.5
Finnish [6k\]: SE says eurogo + 50
Breaker [7k\]: so is it pro lose for 5dan
Breaker [7k\]: ?
Breaker [7k\]: ..
Breaker [7k\]: .:[
Genghis [2k\]: How can Eurogo lose the game?
Tetriste [-\]: I say white will fall for a trap and lose 20 points! :O
just9x9 [-\]: eurogo loses games in byoyomi :D
Darius87 [4d?\]: u should just say nothing
Javaness [2d\]: what happen with black
Javaness [2d\]: what he do
kimball [?\]: t8 is a point
OverYou: game over
OverYou: they're counting
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i think w won y 8.5
IcarusDes [3k\]: Breaker: afaik Balogh Pal is not 1p but 6d :) 
just9x9 [-\]: t8 is no point
gryn [1k?\]: 51 for black, white 50+komi
gryn [1k?\]: oh 49+komi
Javaness [2d\]: will you let us know who wins on tiebreakers?
Beldur [?\]: White had 36 points on the board. Black had 34
just9x9 [-\]: oh maybe t8 is a point
OverYou: bum is awesome
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: sorry w wins 2.5
hotmal: kimball you mean t8 point because of r3 cut?
kimball [?\]: sure
just9x9 [-\]: first i thought you missed that s6 is covered lol :)
hotmal: right you are kimball
Breaker [7k\]: where is the video!?
pebarefoot [-\]: th, eurogo
Breaker [7k\]: oh
Breaker [7k\]: :|
Javaness [2d\]: *wipes tears from eyes*
jer [5d\]: strong
just9x9 [-\]: W+2,5 thx Eurogotc
Breaker [7k\]: the game is over
Breaker [7k\]: lol
Breaker [7k\]: why cam lost?
Breaker [7k\]: ..
Suiyobi [-\]: awesome game
gryn [1k?\]: off by 3 :P sucks
pebarefoot [-\]: sry about your friend, jave
pebarefoot [-\]: java*
sameasyou [2d\]: 4 players with 4 wins
loveHER [6d\]: im still counting 8.5
Jadeite [?\]: Thanks Harry. maybe relay to two servers is too much
OverYou: tourney url?
sameasyou [2d\]: this sucks
indianayk [5d\]: 1p losing to 5d is common depending upon how 1p was obtained. Not too long ago, Japan and Korea used to give 1p for foreigners to promote go in the world.
sameasyou [2d\]: Pal is not 1p
DrH0use [2d\]: shame!
sameasyou [2d\]: it was probably a joke from EurogoTV
Breaker [7k\]: pal is angry
hotmal: Pal is 1p in our hearts
DrH0use [2d\]: g4 
NateC [2d\]: Oh no, he was just deranked!
]
;W[if]
;B[sl]C[Tetriste [-\]: crap
sameasyou [2d\]: :)
]
;W[sf]C[gepay [3k\]: good dgame whatever
]
;B[sd]
;W[ne]C[Tetriste [-\]: eurogo was ashamed at his pro performance
]
;B[pe]
;W[nf]C[GERMANY [18k\]: it goes on 
alizeee: a deranked 1p
]
;B[fn]C[VanEeden [4d\]: paypal 1p
]
;W[fl]C[DrH0use [2d\]: lol!
]
;B[fp]
;W[da]
;B[fa]
;W[gc]
;B[gp]
;W[lp]C[DrH0use [2d\]: ...
]
;B[ko]C[Tetriste [-\]: isnt it more like ebay 1p?
]
;W[np]C[Breaker [7k\]: hey euro
Breaker [7k\]: xD
]
;B[io]
;W[ol]C[hotmal: deranking a pro means "go do harakiri", you cannot do that
]
;B[eo]
;W[ej]
;B[dj]C[DrH0use [2d\]: stop drog
]
;W[ri]
;B[sh]
;W[rg]
;B[sg]
;W[le]
;B[de]C[Javaness [2d\]: I can't stop crying
VanEeden [4d\]: mmm, what comes afetr 1p? 0p?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: W+8.5
Breaker [7k\]: 0,1p
Tetriste [-\]: no
DrH0use [2d\]: cry baby cryyy
hotmal: 1kp (kyu prof.)
Tetriste [-\]: it's 1q
Tetriste [-\]: 1q is after 1p
Breaker [7k\]: shut up
taiji [2k\]: yay flashback win
Breaker [7k\]: =)
alizeee: r3
DrH0use [2d\]: lol hotmal
VanEeden [4d\]: before he got 4p he was πp for a while
Tetriste [-\]: :P
Tetriste [-\]: stuck in the middle
calin [1d\]: I still can't believe b missread that fight.. it was the game...
hotmal: yes, it was so easy to read ;-)
Disney [1d\]: whr?
calin [1d\]: not easy,but he's 1p...
Tetriste [-\]: no he's 6d now
])