(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[4500]OT[30/600 Canadian]
GN[Vienna 2013 Board 2 round 5]PW[Pal Balogh]PB[Jan Hora]WR[6d]BR[6d]DT[2013-06-16]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[Lukan [6d\]: how two Czech players with 4 wins? :P
Lukan [6d\]: how about*
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;B[dp]
;W[pd]
;B[dc]C[Koffein [-\]: how about more players in general? lukan? :D
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;W[de]C[Lukan [6d\]: :(
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;B[ce]C[SirEttin [1d\]: paru baru!
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;W[dd]
;B[cd]
;W[ec]
;B[cf]
;W[df]
;B[dg]
;W[cc]
;B[db]
;W[bc]
;B[cb]
;W[cg]
;B[ch]
;W[bb]
;B[eb]
;W[bg]
;B[bf]
;W[fc]C[SIscurge [5d\]: Jan Hora entered the joseki Paru Baru knows best
SIscurge [5d\]: But Pal ain't a person to play a tricky variation
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;B[fb]
;W[bh]
;B[bd]
;W[ci]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Jan is in deep thought while Pal walks all overthe place to chill
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;B[eg]
;W[fe]
;B[gc]
;W[gd]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV2
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;B[hc]C[ThunderGod [6d\]: simply f13?
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;W[fg]C[Koffein [-\]: my opponents always play g13 instead of f13 :/ 
Koffein [-\]: f12 e12 d12 e11 f14 g13 e15 or e12 c8 g13 (both possible)
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;B[ei]
;W[cl]C[Koffein [-\]: e11 is not recommended .. b must play f12 now, but when white takes c12 black will end up in bad shape
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;B[ed]C[Fredda [-\]: unexpected atari
Fredda [-\]: shouldn't be good
Littleboy [29k?\]: f16 
Sakeus [7k\]: is stream working? 
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: yes
Madzilla [3d\]: F16 is kind of obvious, but are these two stones really worth saving, or does W have something better?
randomID [4d?\]: just e14 ?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Pal is swearing now ;)
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;W[fd]
;B[ff]C[Madzilla [3d\]: I liked E14 more
Sakeus [7k\]: hmm i see stream off air, others work fine
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;W[gf]
;B[gg]C[SIscurge [5d\]: wpw really
Prodigious [4d?\]: heh
Littleboy [29k?\]: is that still joseki ?
Prodigious [4d?\]: definitely not
SIscurge [5d\]: but its strange because it gives w a choice
Koffein [-\]: in general the quality of last round games is rather low :-)
Madzilla [3d\]: yes G13 isn't a good idea
randomID [4d?\]: f12 choice is kinda odd though
randomID [4d?\]: f12 e14 e15 h14 g15 e12  ?
Madzilla [3d\]: it lets W choose if he wants the same result as if B had played E14 E15 G13 F12 or if W prefer to capture at E14
Madzilla [3d\]: absolutely no point in letting W choose the best variation when you can force one
randomID [4d?\]: capturing doesn't look so good either
randomID [4d?\]: i like b whatever sequence he picks
Madzilla [3d\]: so W just plays F12
SIscurge [5d\]: then f13 has nice psychological effect
Koffein [-\]: are the ef17 stones important? connecting kinda reduced white's liberties
Madzilla [3d\]: I would not have connected, I would have played E14 to get better shape
Madzilla [3d\]: f12 e14 e15 h14 g15 d11 d12 e12 h13 g12 h12 g11 j14  - a one way street?
randomID [4d?\]: not d11 in your sequence
Koffein [-\]: f12 e14 e15 h14 g15 e12 and res, mad
randomID [4d?\]: more e12, to decrease w's lib
Koffein [-\]: no choice but e14 
Madzilla [3d\]: you get E12 anyway, no? W can't give the B13 stones
Koffein [-\]: or maybe h13 ? but giving black a ponnuki is rarely good if you want to attack him
randomID [4d?\]: e14 is hard too koffein e14 f12 and w can't hane
Madzilla [3d\]: maybe W should play h13 f12 h15?
Madzilla [3d\]: looks better than the alternative
randomID [4d?\]: sounds easier to handle, but so soft
Koffein [-\]: h13 f12 h15 h12 j13 and i like black .. black got the corner, and there is no target to attack
Madzilla [3d\]: so in which variation do you think B isn't better?
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;W[ef]C[Koffein [-\]: in the variation where white doesn't connect at f16 ^^
randomID [4d?\]: i prefer b in all vars ^^
Madzilla [3d\]: haha
Madzilla [3d\]: me too :)
Madzilla [3d\]: but this is actually a worse variation of playing H13 directly
Madzilla [3d\]: since B gets to play at F14 with atari
Madzilla [3d\]: W played himself into a shortage of liberties
Madzilla [3d\]: ... unless he's planning to connect when B plays F12
Madzilla [3d\]: but that's also really passive
Madzilla [3d\]: then B gets H13
Koffein [-\]: w will connect at f12 - it's a must to keep black somehow weak
Koffein [-\]: connect at f14*
Madzilla [3d\]: anyway E14 becomes almost useless since there was an eye there without it also
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;B[fh]
;W[ff]C[randomID [4d?\]: :o
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;B[hg]
;W[id]C[Madzilla [3d\]: maybe W should finish with H15
Koffein [-\]: h15 is way too slow
Madzilla [3d\]: and what is J16?
Koffein [-\]: j16 has more continuations than h15 
Koffein [-\]: and h16 j14 hurts the center group
Madzilla [3d\]: it also gives B forcing moves like J14
]
;B[pp]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV2
SIscurge [5d\]: TV2 is offstream for me
SIscurge [5d\]: *off air
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: for anybody else too?
Dexihno [1k\]: for me neither
Lukan [6d\]: me too
Sakeus [7k\]: off for me
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: should be fixed now
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;W[jq]C[tymak [2k\]: balogh as ussually waiting for byo-yomi?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: yes he is :P he doesn't spend much time on the board
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV2
Dexihno [1k\]: it works now:)
Dexihno [1k\]: thanks
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;B[fq]C[Lukan [6d\]: actually it looks that this camera works better than EuroGoTV1
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;W[nq]
;B[qn]
;W[pr]
;B[lq]
;W[no]
;B[kp]
;W[qq]
;B[qk]C[SirEttin [1d\]: hmm i wonder what is the most important stone on the board now
tymak [2k\]: so far it looks like normal game without any scary moyo...a bit unexpected from Paru Baru
SirEttin [1d\]: e18?
Ikay [9k\]: isn't the time to go out with j4 or h4?
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;W[io]C[Ikay [9k\]: or j5 :p
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;B[jo]
;W[gq]
;B[fp]C[SIscurge [5d\]: stand tall :)
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;W[jn]
;B[in]C[SIscurge [5d\]: how much time left for the players please?
Lukan [6d\]: w 10, b 50
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Pal Balogh: 9 mins ; Jan Hora: 51 mins
SIscurge [5d\]: ty
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;W[ho]
;B[hn]
;W[go]
;B[mn]
;W[jm]
;B[hl]
;W[lo]
;B[kn]
;W[ko]
;B[jp]
;W[lp]
;B[kq]
;W[iq]
;B[kl]
;W[jl]
;B[jk]
;W[km]
;B[ln]
;W[lm]
;B[mm]
;W[ll]C[SirEttin [1d\]: and they are still in joseki?
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;B[mp]
;W[mo]
;B[np]
;W[op]
;B[mq]
;W[oo]
;B[oq]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: W is now in byo yomi
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;W[nr]C[Pinguschaf [?\]: how is the byoyomi?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 30 stones / 10 min
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: and W just used 5 mins on move 90
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;B[pq]
;W[po]
;B[qp]
;W[qo]
;B[rp]
;W[mr]C[SIscurge [5d\]: well,. it was a hard move :)
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;B[ro]C[SIscurge [5d\]: usally Pal is on the otherside of the squeeze
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;W[nm]
;B[ml]
;W[om]C[Ikay [9k\]: it look like that 5min was well used
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;B[kk]
;W[lk]
;B[lj]
;W[mk]
;B[nl]
;W[qm]
;B[nk]
;W[mj]
;B[rm]
;W[pm]C[Cromagnon [3k\]: m3 group is lost ?
Littleboy [29k?\]: for a moment I thouht that was a ladder
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;B[li]
;W[or]
;B[mi]
;W[nj]
;B[pl]
;W[pn]
;B[rn]
;W[hd]
;B[ic]
;W[jc]
;B[jd]
;W[kc]
;B[kd]
;W[ib]C[SIscurge [5d\]: this will be hard to win for w
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;B[hb]C[SIscurge [5d\]: *for b
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;W[ha]
;B[gb]C[Lukan [6d\]: :/
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;W[lc]
;B[od]
;W[pc]
;B[ld]C[SirEttin [1d\]: paru baru must win this?
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;W[md]C[Bigmonkey [1k\]: how much time b's got left
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;B[me]
;W[mc]C[Lukan [6d\]: 20min
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;B[he]
;W[je]
;B[kf]
;W[hf]
;B[jf]
;W[ie]
;B[pe]C[wlaschek [1k\]: does viktor have a twin?d
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;W[qe]
;B[qf]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no
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;W[rd]
;B[re]
;W[qd]
;B[oe]
;W[oc]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: W just took another 30 stones
F525 [1k\]: Is there anywhere I can read about the player roster, brackets, finals etc.?
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;B[oi]
;W[oj]
;B[pj]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: there is a website, yes
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;W[ig]C[F525 [1k\]: Would you happen to have the URL?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: http://wien-2013.goverband.at
wlaschek [1k\]: who 's the one on "eurotv1"?
donkisot [6d?\]: white leading but black will win 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: viktor
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;B[ih]C[wlaschek [1k\]: thx
SeiChan [3k\]: how is pal doing o:?
SeiChan [3k\]: is he like he was playing the first game with breakfast with a sword in the hand?:D
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Can't ask him, he is busy playing go
MXHero [4d\]: H7?
SeiChan [3k\]: so hes concentrate :O
donkisot [6d?\]: what does h7 for?
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;W[rf]
;B[rg]
;W[se]C[MXHero [4d\]: breaks through, prevents b O11 from being sente
MXHero [4d\]: not sure if it's worth it
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;B[il]C[MXHero [4d\]: too late now :)
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;W[kr]C[SeiChan [3k\]: wasnt the corner bigger than s15?
SeiChan [3k\]: why did he play s13?
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;B[qg]
;W[ke]
;B[le]C[Achiles [?\]: nobody wants c6?
donkisot [6d?\]: b4 
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;W[jg]C[badukness [1k?\]: where is harry
SirEttin [1d\]: harry who?
Renovate [-\]: he is studying with dumbledore
wlaschek [1k\]: harry, CEO of eurogotv
SirEttin [1d\]: is he present in all events?
]
;B[if]C[badukness [1k?\]: wow
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;W[gh]
;B[hh]
;W[gi]C[SirEttin [1d\]: woot is going on
wlaschek [1k\]: no, but on this
SeiChan [3k\]: gooo pal >D
badukness [1k?\]: strange game
SIscurge [5d\]: Pal smells blood
keepcalm [6k\]: j14 doesn't seem to be a good idea...
MXHero [4d\]: F12 has to die
]
;B[ej]C[SirEttin [1d\]: no
]
;W[lf]C[MXHero [4d\]: yes, or else this
SirEttin [1d\]: just o14
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;B[kg]C[fekand4 [1d\]: n13
]
;W[mf]C[MXHero [4d\]: K12
donkisot [6d?\]: g11 e10 exchange good for white?
SIscurge [5d\]: its geta 
badukness [1k?\]: yes geta
SeiChan [3k\]: i wonder what pal thinkig
badukness [1k?\]: in resign maybe
badukness [1k?\]: with style
SIscurge [5d\]: so b has to m13
Herod [-\]: keep watching and you will find out what they are thinking
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;B[lg]
;W[ne]C[donkisot [6d?\]: this sequence works without that exchange i guess
badukness [1k?\]: loll
Pinguschaf [?\]: isnt there an exchange with k12 before?
joenosai [4k\]: lol
]
;B[bm]C[badukness [1k?\]: LOL
SirEttin [1d\]: paru baru is nwo dead?
]
;W[bl]C[SIscurge [5d\]: looks like good move this one
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;B[cm]
;W[ae]
;B[ad]
;W[af]
;B[ab]
;W[ba]C[SIscurge [5d\]: a bit desprate, but what can you do
badukness [1k?\]: i find it very sad
SirEttin [1d\]: d12
]
;B[ac]
;W[ag]
;B[ca]
;W[dm]C[gotoin [7k\]: why not simply o15 for black ?
badukness [1k?\]: geta
MXHero [4d\]: because then w K12 kills something really important
gotoin [7k\]: thx
badukness [1k?\]: but still sad imo
sam021527 [7k\]: CAN'T w C3?
badukness [1k?\]: yes he can
MXHero [4d\]: no, it's b's turn
]
;B[co]
;W[ek]C[badukness [1k?\]: c3 time
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;B[fk]
;W[dk]C[tymak [2k\]: no need for c3
]
;B[fj]C[SirEttin [1d\]: has paru baru yet lost in this tournament?
badukness [1k?\]: im not sure
]
;W[gr]
;B[fr]
;W[fs]
;B[es]
;W[gs]
;B[dr]
;W[am]C[Lukan [6d\]: he lost twice already
]
;B[bn]C[tymak [2k\]: dinerstein beat him in 1st round
badukness [1k?\]: t13 really big
donkisot [6d?\]: white leading by 5 but black will win the game
SirEttin [1d\]: oh dinnerstein
badukness [1k?\]: where?
badukness [1k?\]: ?
fekand4 [1d\]: s3
badukness [1k?\]: sorry for double ? <
SIscurge [5d\]: w+15no?
donkisot [6d?\]: r2 s3 is really big
Ikay [9k\]: e12 time?
]
;W[og]
;B[of]
;W[ng]C[badukness [1k?\]: strange yose
]
;B[qr]C[fekand4 [1d\]: o11
]
;W[sg]C[Renovate [-\]: yea why doesnt w play o11?
]
;B[ri]
;W[sh]
;B[jb]
;W[kb]
;B[ia]C[badukness [1k?\]: o11 big
]
;W[si]
;B[rj]C[Renovate [-\]: its like they dont see it..
Herod [-\]: maybe because k5 already dead?
Ikay [9k\]: why o11 i don't see how it could help?
hoshan [1k?\]: o11 not so big :p
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: W takes another 30 stones. B in byo yomi now too
badukness [1k?\]: 30 stones?
]
;W[ph]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: byo yomi: 30 stones / 10 mins
kx: as played roln
]
;B[sj]
;W[rr]
;B[rq]
;W[qs]
;B[dn]
;W[em]C[badukness [1k?\]: i got problems on the video
badukness [1k?\]: is it normal?
Ikay [9k\]: d11?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: B resign
badukness [1k?\]: thanks
SIscurge [5d\]: thanks for broadcasting
SeiChan [3k\]: yey :D
Ikay [9k\]: thx
LApulca [-\]: :(((
Lukan [6d\]: :/
asa2114 [5k\]: thx
chute [1d\]: thanks
LApulca [-\]: ty
Brown [1d\]: grat Pali
Lukan [6d\]: but maybe Hora still 3rd?
badukness [1k?\]: o15 was really painful
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: thanks for watching
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